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Survival rates for prostate cancer 'far better in US'



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Published Date: 17 April 2008
By John von Radowitz
PROSTATE cancer death-rates have fallen almost four times faster in the US than in the UK since the early 1990s, a study has shown.
The reason could be due to different approaches to screening and treatment in the two countries, say researchers.

But the jury is still out on whether blood tests, which are carried out far more routinely in the US, contributed to the better record across the Atlantic.

Prostate cancer screening uses the PSA test, which looks for raised levels of a protein called prostate-specific antigen.

PSA leaks out of the prostate gland into the blood when cancer is present, but can also appear for other reasons.

So far, there has been no robust evidence to indicate that carrying out PSA tests on large numbers of men has an impact on prostate cancer mortality.

Yet the test is almost routine in the US. In 2001, 57 per cent of US men aged 50 or older reported having had a PSA test in the past 12 months. By contrast, each year between 1999 and 2002, an estimated 6 per cent of men aged 45 to 84 had the test in the UK.

The research, led by Dr Simon Collin, from the University of Bristol, compared death rates in the UK and US between 1975 and 2004.





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  • Last Updated: 16 April 2008 10:08 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Prostate Cancer
 
1

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 17/04/2008 01:22:04
Survival rates for prostate cancer 'far better in US'
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A-HA Dudes .

That bad Old USA does it again.
That greet Satan does it again.

Boy am I glad I live in California in the USA, despite our evil Pres. Bush and his gang

Happy healthy prostate gland day dudes.

GC
2

Regina,

17/04/2008 01:58:59
#1 GalacticCannibal

The brain damaged GalacticCannibal wrote "despite our evil Pres. Bush and his gang"

What does that nonsense have to do with the article?
3

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17/04/2008 04:00:47
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4

Jim A,

17/04/2008 05:36:13
#1 ShroomHead, Boy am I glad I live in California in the USA.

Yeah we're glad you live there to
5

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 17/04/2008 10:52:21
Hey there All,

This study is just another reason to abandon the Socialized Medical System you folks have, and for Americans to NOT vote for Hillary Care or Obama Care.

If you want a real scare, start looking at comparatives of survival rates for cancers that affect women: UK vs USA stats.

After reading those numbers, I'll wager you Brits will want to abandon the NHS at Warp 9.

Lastly, please take the ShroomHead from CA, we really don't want him.

Cheers from the Rockies
6

Rindo,

Glasgow 17/04/2008 12:20:40
I haven't read the report either, but do lead time bias and unecessary over investigation get a mention?

"So far, there has been no robust evidence to indicate that carrying out PSA tests on large numbers of men has an impact on prostate cancer mortality"

So why does the US do it then?
7

Elderberry,

17/04/2008 12:31:21
Men in the UK are also far less religous.
8

Jewel of the Forth,

Fife 17/04/2008 12:45:47
US men have much larger bullucks, does that help?
9

Mcsnagpile,

17/04/2008 15:56:12
Considering half the population in the USA cannot afford Medical insurance-- what’s the beef??
International statistics suggest that early diagnosis does not improve mortality.
PSA tests are of little value unless they have been taken over a number of years. High PSA are normal in some men—not worth having yer jewels off for.
The DRE (poke in the hole test) is possibly the best premier test for friability, hard masses, or enlargement. Ultrasound is also good if you have a worry—but go to the bog first. If the test is unfavourable a needle in the bahooky is required for a biopsy. After all the bother you will possibly die of something else.

A new test the PCA3 is another test you can plague your doctor with although you may have to pay for it in one way or another.
10

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 17/04/2008 16:23:45
Hello Snaggie,

'..half the population in the USA cannot afford Medical insurance...'

My dear Snaggie, you're off your rocker old fellow!

The pop of the USA is appx. 300 MILLION and the number touted by every Left Winger in the Dem Party of note, including both Hillary and Obama, mark the 'uninsured/underinsured' (a very key distinction) numbers at 43-47 MILLION.

Can you do the maths? That's appx. 14.33%-15.65% of the US population, NOT 50%!!!!

Do you Rad Leftists never tire of lying about easy to verify facts?

Mind you, of the 43-47 MILLION people without insurance or UNDERINSURED, only 20% of those numbers are actually without insurance. Further, a large portion of these numbers may include illegal aliens!!!!! They are NOT entitled to ANY American benefits, as they are NOT Americans.

Again, can you do the maths?

That would be 8.6 MILLION to 9.4 MILLION out of 300 MILLION Americans (such as myself) whom do NOT have health insurance.
Mind you, if we are feeling too 'iffy' we can STILL go to Emergency Rooms for help, should we need it.

This means that 2.7%-3.15% of all Americans, are without health insurance.

A far cry from your lie of 50%!!

Considering all the numerous studies comparing the American System with the Socialized/Universal Health Systems in GB and Europe, we Americans are FAR MORE likely to survive serious diseases, such as cancers, than are our British and European counterparts, even our Canadian counterparts, just North of the Border!

There was a study a bit ago, comparing female cancers and survival rates, in the USA and Canada.

Breast cancer survival rates, cervical cancer survival rates, etc., were all significantly LOWER in Canada than in the USA. American survival rates for these cancers compared to your Brit survival rates was MUCH higher even than even the Canadian data! You Brits are in a bad way when it comes to cancer and staying alive, compared to either the Canadians and certainly we Americans!!

Sa
11

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 17/04/2008 16:25:23
Hello Snaggie CONT,

Same stats go for heart/lung related ailments!

So go ahead and lie all you want Snaggie: perhaps you'll change your tune if you end up with one of these life threatening diseases! Though given the continued poor stats of your dear NHS, you won't have to worry too long!

Cheers from the Rockies
12

57Nomad,

california 17/04/2008 18:36:08
#6 Rhindo

Rhindo said:

""So far, there has been no robust evidence to indicate that carrying out PSA tests on large numbers of men has an impact on prostate cancer mortality"

So why does the US do it then?"

I think this is one of the reasons, from the article:

"PROSTATE cancer death-rates have fallen almost four times faster in the US than in the UK since the early 1990s, a study has shown."

13

57Nomad,

california 17/04/2008 18:45:25
Nearly all men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough. Usually the cancerous cells will stay confined in the prostate and pose little heath risk as long as that remains so. But, if any of the cancerous cells escape the prostate and establish themselves in other parts of the body, that man is doomed. The PSA is the male equivalent of a Pap smear for a woman. It is an early detection method and allows doctors and patients lead time to determine which course of treatment is best.
14

Mcsnagpile,

17/04/2008 18:48:39

11#
Hey doggone ya got me dude.
The US has a mixed public-private system of health insurance. It comprises:
· Federal Medicare programme, covering people aged 65 and over and those who have been disabled for two years or more (12% of population)
· State Medicaid programmes—covering children from low-income families and in some states their parents as well as providing long term care and cost sharing for acute care for Medicare beneficiaries with low incomes (13%)
· Voluntary employer based private insurance—covering many working families (54%), and
· Individual insurance (5%)
The remaining 16% of the population is uninsured. The number of uninsured people has increased from 40 million in 2000 to nearly 47 million in 2005. Coverage varies widely between states and has deteriorated in recent years
early all of the growth in the uninsured is among people aged 18 to 64, most of whom are working. The average family premium for employer based cover is $11 480 (£5900; 8800) a year. Employers have cut back on coverage and benefits in response to rising healthcare costs and adverse economic circumstances. Enactment of a state children's health insurance programme in 1997 has provided insurance for five million children from low income families, offsetting the fall in cover of dependents through voluntary employment based insurance.
15

Tobermory,

Mull 17/04/2008 21:15:45
8 Jewel of the Forth

Men in the US only appear to have larger bullocks by the actions they take.
16

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta 17/04/2008 22:21:57
2
Regina,
-----------------

Dude My brain IS NOT DAMAGED.

That was a despicable thought and for U to say that .

Try to be nice Dude.

Happy Thoughts day Dude

GC

17

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 17/04/2008 22:25:04
10
Neanderthal75,
Rocky Mountains USA

----------------------------------
Calm down Dude. My family and me (I) have Medical Insurance coming out our Ying YANG.

Like I said Dude

Calm down and take a chill pill,

GC
18

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 17/04/2008 22:39:06
13
57Nomad,
california
--------------------------------
Hey Dude,

With all due respect U must be an old F*ART. by the boring comments U make.

Chill out Dude .

Drive up to Escondido, to the STONE Brewery and get Ur self a 24 pack of Double Arrogant B*astard\* Ale .

Drink a bottle and relax.

U are far too serious for this world dude.
I respect ur age but stop being such a damm BORE.

Hey Dude,

Early this morning I lost my new truck in LOWE's parking lot . It scared me, as my mother gave me that truck as a gift.

Hey dude, look at my truck its the Ridgeline RTL open
automobiles.honda.com/ridgeline/ - 46k


Happy Southern California Day ..dude and Relax.

GC
19

Regina,

17/04/2008 23:09:51
16 GalacticCannibal

I disagree, how else do you explain your stupid off topic comment about President Bush on a story titled "Survival rates for prostate cancer 'far better in US'" Where the President is not mentioned once.

Have you not admitted to still taking illegal drugs?
Have you not been taking illegal drugs for some time now?
20

57Nomad,

california 17/04/2008 23:27:50
#18 GC

Did someone slip some toadstools into your stash. Not a single one of the comments you have sent my way today have any connection with the topic under discussion. In case you can't distinguish between the Scotsman and your comic books, the topic is prostate cancer and mortality rates in different countries. It's not a particularly entertaining subject. Nonetheless my comments were apropos and yours are not. Have you been hanging around with Wally?
21

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 18/04/2008 00:19:31
19
Regina,
------------------

Hey Dude,
Alcohol and Nicotine are legal drugs. Heroin , Cannabis , Cocaine are Illegal drugs.

All five KILL people . But the legal drugs kill 100 times more people world wide than do the illegal drugs.

SO what's Ur point dude.

I use wild natural shrooms in cooking .
They too are illegal

Great logic here dude.

GC

20
57Nomad,
california
-------------------------- Hey dude.
U just confirmed that U are a GREAT BORE or possibilty a GREAT GEEK.

Nothing wrong with that dude . Just not my cup od shrooms

Happy Beach day Dude.

At least we both live in a fantastie place in the planet

Now get a bottle of that Arrogant Bastar*d Ale and chill Out dude

GC
22

Edward M. Kennedy,

18/04/2008 02:33:33
21 GalacticCannibal

Nutter
23

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 18/04/2008 06:26:59
Hey All You Scots!!!

I'm offering up for auction, one drug embalmed, mushroom addled, enormously vacuous, utterly clueless, and totally incoherent in scope Lemming, currently residing in "Arnie-Land" aka, Murrieta, CA.

He's got low, low, low, Chronological Miles on him, and was only driven around after ditching school by a totally unsuspecting mom (her mom is the renowned "Little Old Lady from Pasedena"), known to praise him for his wonderful insights into daily life, politics, social concerns, and key geo-global issues of the day.

Her name is 'Bambi'.

Now what will you lively Scots offer for this teenage model, slightly used but chemically abused, and ready to believe ANYTHING while Under the Influence!!!

Bidding will start at 3 Cockroaches, 8 Silverfish, 4 Earwigs, 1 dozen Dust Mites, and a well used but slightly gnawed upon Partridge in a Pear Tree and the Scraggly Cat with a bitten off tail that gnawed on the Partridge.

Please make sure that all you insects are alive and moving, the Partridge still has some feathers intact, and that the cat with the bitten off tail has not yet discovered he is up for auction.

The winning bidder will be required to pay for shipping from CA to Scotland, but the good news about shipping is that the Slow Boat from China is now available and at a hugely discounted rental rate (hint, if you've any roadkill still lying around the garage, you're definitely in the running).

Remember people: bid soon, bid often, and keep those critters moving and shiny!!!!

Let 'er rip!!

Cheers from the Rockies

24

American,

18/04/2008 19:34:26
#18-GC-Bragging about your moms money, vacations, new truck, college education, shrooms and no job-because you dont want to work for the big corp and the man! You cant possibly be for real Dude. I dont buy your bullsh@t. I think you're just some bored loner.
25

Hugo Rafael Chávez,

Venezuela 19/04/2008 01:42:31
CHILD MOLESTATION AND OTHER VIOLENCE

Many studies of child molestation have been carried out, and the results are both consistent and startling. Between 55-60% of statutory rape (child molestation) involves homosexuality (P. Cameron, Psych. Reports, 1985, 57:1227-36). A survey of white gays found that 65% admitted to having sex with boys 16 or younger, when they were 21 or older (A.P. Bell, Sexual Preference, 1981, 19).
Entire studies have been written on the large number of child molestation cases, done by homosexuals. In their magazines, gays admit that one of their objectives in doing this is to increase the number of homosexuals.

Some of these studies were about homosexual school teachers. It is known that they prey on the children.
Aside from passion, there are two special reasons why gays do this: (1) By sodomizing children, they increase the number who will grow up to be homosexuals. (2) Children have less diseases to transmit. NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) has, as its goal, the removing of laws prohibiting gays from having sex with minors. In 1990, the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland was lowered to 12!

The National Crime Survey reported that about 27% of rapes are homosexual. They have dramatically increased with the rise of the gay rights movement. This crime is twice as common in urban areas where gays congregate (C.W. Harlow, U.S. Dept. Justice, 1991, NCJ-126826).

A study of 518 mass murders in the U.S., from 1966 to 1983, revealed that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality (P. Cameron, Midwestern Psych. Assn., 1983)

 

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