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St Johnstone 1 - 1 Rangers. After extra time. Rangers win 4-3 on pens : Alexander is the saving grace for below-par Rangers



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Published Date: 21 April 2008
RANGERS' seemingly imperishable capacity for surviving ordeals of uncertainty at Hampden Park proved to be their most powerful ally once again yesterday, when the Ibrox side, in a penalty shoot-out, finally shrugged off St Johnstone's tormenting attentions in a generally unimpressive Scottish Cup semi-final.

In almost a reprise of the CIS Cup final against Dundee United, Walter Smith's makeshift side had to come from behind in extra time, requiring a penalty from Nacho Novo to equalise substitute Daniel McBreen's headed opener to deny the Perth club's manager, Derek McInnes, a glorious climax to his first season in his second career.

McInnes, himself a former Rangers player, would surely have experienced that sinking feeling the moment referee Dougie McDonald penalised Gary Irvine's challenge on Daniel Cousin. McInnes would probably share the suspicion with everyone else in the stadium that Rangers would, one way or the other, emerge triumphant.

As if obeying the dictates of Sod's Law, it was the otherwise ineffective Cousin who would score the decisive goal in the shoot-out, adding to those of Steven Davis, Steven Whittaker and Novo, with Brahim Hemdani having seen his attempt saved by Alan Main.

St Johnstone's three scorers, Paul Sheerin, Liam Craig and Andy Jackson, would be frustrated by the saves Neil Alexander completed from Steven Milne and Jody Morris. It was what could be called an appropriately tortuous end to Milne's day, as he had squandered three outstanding opportunities to win the match for St Johnstone during regulation play.

In truth, the outcome – excepting the climactic showdown – was entirely fitting to two teams who were virtually inseparable through the 120 minutes. For the neutral observer, however, the unfortunate element of this balance in the standard of performance is that it was achieved through both sides playing to a level common to the middle orders of the First Division, rather than the top of the Premier League.

Even when allowances are made for the numerous changes in Rangers' usual line-up, there was a mediocrity about them that clearly would not be excused by a support that was barely heard until Cousin converted the decisive penalty.

Preconceptions, of course, as often as not are the first casualties of matches like these, before which there tends to be a widespread assumption that one team will be an easy victim for the other. This applies especially when an Old Firm side is set against opponents from a lower division, but the extensive alterations – eight in all – made to Rangers' recognised first XI would not have been anticipated by those who forecast a walkover for the powerful Ibrox side.

Nor could anyone have foreseen that the human casualties would include two of Smith's starting line-up before the match was 20 minutes old. But even before the injury-enforced removal of Chris Burke and Steven Naismith – the two wide players in a 4-4-2 formation – St Johnstone had made it plain that they were not intimidated by either the occasion or the status of their opponents.

Burke seemed to be painfully, but accidentally, damaged after the Saints defender, Kevin Rutkiewicz, had cleared the ball upfield and his foot came down hard on the winger's ankle. He was replaced by long-lost Thomas Buffel after a mere 11 minutes. Burke would soon be joined in Hampden's A&E unit by Naismith, who was on the ground when Martin Hardie, like Rutkiewicz, knocked the ball clear and then inadvertently trampled the Rangers player's knee as he tried to break clear.

Naismith came back to the field after treatment, but, within a minute, stretched to touch the ball back to Buffel and clearly aggravated the injury. That moment brought Rangers their first sniff of an opportunity, as Buffel seemed likely to go clear inside the penalty area. But he was foiled by a perfectly-timed challenge from Irvine.

It was an indicator of the Perth side's resistance that it should have taken Rangers 20 minutes to make the slightest impact in a forward area, although they had been required to defend themselves on several occasions as Saints' twin strikers, Peter MacDonald and Andy Jackson, forced themselves on Carlos Cuellar and Christian Dailly. Dailly betrayed his discomfort with a tackle on Jackson that brought a yellow card.

Dailly's anxiety would deepen as St Johnstone created the more controvertible opportunities during a period in which three of them fell to Milne, who, on another day, would surely have exploited at least one of them. Instead, he volleyed Hardie's downward header over, headed Craig's precise chip too high and, finally, took the ball from Dailly on the edge of the area and, with only Alexander to beat, scooped another shot over the bar. McBreen, who had replaced MacDonald in the 80th minute, was contrastingly deadly when he moved forward to meet Sheerin's terrific, pacey cross from the left, sending the header low and powerfully to the right of Alexander from eight yards.

Novo, who had also been profligate – most notably when pulling the shot wide after a slack pass back from Goran Stanic – atoned fully with the equaliser, driving the ball low to the right of Main after Irvine's ill-advised challenge on Cousin. Rangers, as a result, remain in contention for four trophies, but they will surely be unable to afford any more days like these in the coming weeks.

Key moments from a tense tussle

Eight minutes: Chris Burke is stretchered off with an ankle injury after a crunching challenge by St Johnstone defender Kevin Rutkiewicz, to be replaced two minutes later by Thomas Buffel.

17: Steven Naismith hobbles back on after treatment but collapses after his first touch and is replaced by Steven Davis.

26: Buffel finds the net but has his six-yard strike ruled out for offside.

30: Christian Dailly is booked for a hefty midfield tackle on Andy Jackson.

32: Nacho Novo takes advantage of Goran Stanic's careless passback to claim possession and shoot from 18 yards, but the effort rolls past the left-hand post.

34: Stanic atones by crucially booting the ball over the bar when Davis fires the ball in from the left with Daniel Cousin poised to fire home from close range.

46: Novo meets Steven Whittaker's cross from the right with a perfect header from six yards, but Main stretches to tip the effort over the bar.

52: Steven Milne misses St Johnstone's best chance of the game when his 12-yard volley from Hardie's headed knock-down is blasted over the bar.

57: Milne comes far closer with a header from Liam Craig's cross from the left which he sends just past the right-hand post under pressure from Dailly.

86: Rutkiewicz makes a decisive last-ditch tackle to keep the scoreline goalless with an outstanding block from Novo's cross – and Craig boots off the line following Davis' header from the subsequent corner.

90: Jody Morris boots off the line to keep out Cousin's diagonal header at the right-hand post to take the goalless semi-final into extra-time.

94: The First Division side take a sensational lead, Paul Sheerin crossing from the left wing to the far side of the box where Daniel McBreen bullets home a header at the near post.

102: Cousin is brought down in the box by a clumsy challenge from right-back Gary Irvine; Novo steps up to take the penalty and beats Main by drilling the ball low into the net at the left-hand post.

112: Milne fires over the bar from a St Johnstone break but protests that he was fouled by Dailly as he unleashed his effort.

117: Novo hits the base of the right-hand post with an impressive turn and shot.

120: Extra-time ends 1-1 and the game goes to penalties.

Penalties: Alexander saves St Johnstone's third penalty, taken by Milne.

Main levels the score at 3-3 by saving from Brahim Hemdani.

Alexander saves from Morris and Cousin nets the final spot kick to give Rangers a 4-3 win on spot kicks and take them to the Scottish Cup final.

Smith condemns Hampden pitch and frets over mounting injury tally

WALTER Smith was as critical of his own players as he was of the Hampden pitch yesterday as Rangers scraped their way into their 50th Scottish Cup final and maintained their quest to win four major trophies this season.

Admitting relief was the predominant emotion in the Ibrox club's camp following their penalty shoot- out victory over St Johnstone – which secured a date with another First Division club, Queen of the South, on 24 May – the Rangers manager also gave a scathing assessment of the playing surface at the national stadium.

Smith said the condition of the pitch played a part in a knee injury sustained by Steven Naismith, who was carried off on a stretcher, with team-mate Chris Burke having made a similar exit after damaging an ankle. Smith conceded that his lengthening injury list is causing him increasing concern as Rangers approach the climax of their remarkable campaign.

With the semi-final win over St Johnstone, Rangers are now guaranteed to play 67 games this season, which would equal the all-time Scottish record of Dundee United in 1986-87, and that will increase to 68 if they can overcome Fiorentina, 1-0 winners against Palermo in Serie A on Saturday, to reach the Uefa Cup final.

"The number of injuries we have are catching up with us at the moment," said Smith. "A few weeks ago, we had hardly any injured players but it is starting to mount up now. It was a fear I had with the amount of games we have to play. It will put pressure on other players in the squad.

"It was no excuse for the way we played today, but Steven Naismith's injury is attributable to the pitch at Hampden. For a national stadium, that pitch is in shocking condition. By all accounts, they couldn't water it before the game which I don't really understand.

"We are not entirely sure how long either Steven or Chris Burke will be out, we should find out tomorrow. Steven thought his knee was okay after the initial challenge on him, but he then damaged it again when he caught it in the turf.

"We managed to get through in the end, but it wasn't the best of days for us in terms of our overall performance. St Johnstone made it very difficult for us and Derek McInnes can be proud of his boys.

"From our point of view, we have played better in other cup ties, so we are just delighted and a little bit relieved to get to the final. We have been doing that every now and then, winning games when not playing well, but we had to put a lot of effort in today just to match that aspect of St Johnstone's performance. We created a few opportunities that we managed to squander, but overall the performance was not a good one."

Having made eight changes to his starting line-up following the 2-1 defeat to Celtic at Parkhead last Wednesday night, Smith was in no mood to entertain a suggestion from one reporter that fatigue was a factor in Rangers' lacklustre display.

"Most of the players who played today have not played that many games this season, so that's not a reason for anything," responded Smith. "But when you make as many changes as we did today, it can sometimes make it difficult for the team to get going."

Rangers face Serie A's fourth-place club Fiorentina at Ibrox on Thursday night in the first leg of their Uefa Cup semi-final, before returning to Celtic Park on Sunday.

Their resources are being tested to the full, with their outstanding SPL fixtures away to Motherwell and St Mirren still to be rescheduled.

"Injuries don't come into it as far as the fixture congestion is concerned," added Smith. "We have got to play the games and just have to wait and see what they (the SPL) decide. They are still deliberating on it."

St Johnstone manager Derek McInnes was understandably crushed in the wake of his team's missed opportunity to take the Perth club into the Scottish Cup final for the first time in their history.

"There was a real belief among our players that they would win the game today," said McInnes. "I know people will say Rangers were poor, but I think we played our part in taking the game to them with a lot of confidence.

"Our players deserve a lot of credit and on another day would have won it, but Rangers showed why they are still challenging on all fronts this season. They have got that winning mentality under their manager."

McInnes was especially sympathetic towards midfielder Jody Morris, who played despite a calf injury and had the decisive penalty saved by Rangers goalkeeper Neil Alexander in the shoot-out.

"Jody was struggling from 60 minutes on," said McInnes, "but stuck with it. We practised penalties during the week and he was the only player who never missed one."

SFA spokesman Rob Shorthouse, meanwhile, last night defended the condition of the Hampden pitch, which hosted the Second Division match between Queen's Park and Ayr United 24 hours earlier.

"The groundsman watered it immediately after that match," said Shorthouse. "He took a look at it again this morning and was happy with the condition of it. The watering system we have takes three hours to work, so time is an issue."

Stephen Halliday

The full article contains 2292 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Teary Ennui,

21/04/2008 00:05:21
The rollercoaster ride continues. A cruel way for Saints to lose but the Gers go marching (or should that be hobbling?) on.
2

BEMUSED EXILE,

21/04/2008 00:12:19
A poor performance, but the ability to dig in and earn a positive result under such circumstances is the hallmark of winners. I'm sure that QOS will try to make it just as difficult in the Final, but I can't see any outcome but a second domestic cup of the season for Rangers, who seldom lose at Hampden.

Now onto Fiorentina. Play like today and Rangers are sunk, but we've seen a few examples this season of poor performances at the weekend followed by positive European results in midweek, so we can look forward with hope.

Next 3 games are huge. If we can win on Thursday and at least draw the following 2 matches, then glory seems inevitable. Play as if your lives depend on it, lads, and the most successful season in RFC history beckons.

C'mon the 'Gers.
3

arthurscross,

21/04/2008 00:15:04
Sir Dotty Wotty has a cheek to complain about Hampden after the shocking state of S.W.A.M.P Park this season when they even had a waterlogged park which postponed a game. They even had to resort to painting the ground ground to make it look grassy.
He is definately losing it and McCoist must stay.
4

Teary Ennui,

21/04/2008 00:17:29
"They even had to resort to painting the ground ground" (#3)

Is that some kind of post-modern thing?
5

TheBoke.,

21/04/2008 00:29:09
Rangers were D.I.R.E! They nearly R.U.I.N'd ma weekend.
Thats 5 players out previously and Boyd/JCD added today, suspensions to come and inTIMidated refs............... what else can they come up with?
After Novo had missed his first 10 chances, the disallowed goal, the two non offsides, Naisy and Burke carried off and Dailly booked for a mistimed tackle the thought crossed my mind "this may not be our day". When Novo hit the post and the Buffel sythe was turned down I was certain it was not. But hey "The Quad squad" marches on. Thats a very unfortunate "Cool Britainia" type soundbyte. I posted earlier that the signs are there that things are unwinding fast. Given that the SC final is the last game of the season TheBoke would gladly give up the UEFA now if it helped gain the SPL. We must consider doing a "Bolton" if the "Haufed Squad" get exposed on Thursday. Next Sunday will not be the end of the season no matter what the result only this time Rangers will want the result just as much as the mHelts and will be READY! (if there is any of them left to play)
6

TheBoke.,

21/04/2008 00:38:44
#2 BE but we've seen a few examples this season of poor performances at the weekend followed by positive European results in midweek, so we can look forward with hope.

From a fellow Bear who predicted woe in each of the previous home ties, thats a deffo loss on Thursday then. I just cannot see us keep a clean sheet this time and that will be our undoing. On the upside I thought SSmith had an excellent game and it bodes well for next season. Buffel is a stick on for a start on Thursday too. I was very disapointed by Cousin today, really though he would be "upfirit" in the run in.
7

BEMUSED EXILE,

21/04/2008 00:42:18
It will certainly be interesting to see the Rangers line-up that runs out on Thursday with the personnel problems that we have.

I can't see WS straying from the 4-2-3-1 that served us well against Werder Bremen and Sporting Lisbon, so looking at my crystal ball...

Alexander; Whittaker Weir Cuellar Smith; Dailly Hemdani; Novo Davis Buffel; Cousin

It doesn't look too bad, but we better wrap them in cotton wool until Thursday!
8

buy2let,

the voice of reason 21/04/2008 00:50:34
what a truly awful game of football,how embarresing was this tosh served up as a semi final of our national cup competition,fair play to the saints they have limited ability,but rangers were truly appalling im glad the game was only shown in scotland,it was like a junior cup game at hampden with an empty stadium atrocious turnout for a support who preside over the title "wee arra peeple" well im afraid the peeple wernt there,they must saying there prayers thanking God that they were at liddles or burgerking and not wasting ther money on that dish served up today
9

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21/04/2008 00:53:53
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Colin P,

21/04/2008 00:59:49
Some people on here are still sore that their teams are out of all competitions.

Yes, it was a deplorable game today, but the Gers won, yet again.

Get over it.
11

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 21/04/2008 01:04:22
#10..not out the league yet colin...xx
12

Oor_Wullie,

ma_bucket 21/04/2008 01:04:38
#10 - nout to do with being sore Colin, was simply a dreadful gemme, end of - but you may well witness your own team feeling sore shortly, after Fiorentina provide them with an additional new rear exit. And rightly so, on current form :)
13

Colin P,

21/04/2008 01:11:12
11 and 12

I agree with you, guys. We're in tough now, but same as you, we have hope.
This season really is beyond my wildest dreams back in August. Let me enjoy it while I can. ;-)
14

Colin P,

21/04/2008 01:13:00
And Wullie...I didn't name names. Some people are hurting, but most Celtic fans have faith that their team can work this miracle.

It remains to be seen. If the Gers can play sh1te like that today, and still get the results, with the squad that's left, and after all these games, then I'll enjoy the ride.
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21/04/2008 01:18:28
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Oor_Wullie,

ma_bucket 21/04/2008 01:37:30
#14 - fair doos Colin, better tae be lucky than good sometimes, and you certainly proved that against SJ.. That you can go still further in your remaining three competions solely on the basis of this (luck) goes against the grain with those of who believe it is an attribute in finite supply, one which should be shared out evenly and rightly so. Should you indeed win a quadruple playing like that, I would be the first to say well done on these forums - however, in the real world, aint gonna happen :) yir pushin it a bit as it is, be surprised if you win the treble tbh, but, as you say, enjoy it while you can, because it definitely cannot last..
17

Little Stewie Griffin,

21/04/2008 03:27:01
I did predict yesterday that I thought this would go to ET.

I suppose we will be informed that it shows remarkable foresight on behalf of the Rangers management team-both the League Cup final and now the Scottish semi going to penalties-good practice if they have a penalty shoot-out in the UEFA.

I also think the SPL is going to go to the wire-but thankfully no penalty shoot-out and interesting that the price on Celtic has come in from 7/2 to 3/1-expect it to fall to 2/1 or 6/4 after next Sunday. I am on!

Rangers are now running on empty-do they have enough in the tank to crawl over the finish line and Fiorentina 4th in Serie A will prove to be a class above.
18

bring them on,

21/04/2008 03:31:37
Four points in the next two league games should be our target.
19

Colin P,

21/04/2008 04:14:26
With the line-up that Bemused named at post #7, "Alexander; Whittaker Weir Cuellar Smith; Dailly Hemdani; Novo Davis Buffel; Cousin",I don't think I'd bet too much of my hard-earned wage against them in the upcoming games.
These are guys who are out to prove themselves for next season. The core is there, and they've all been witness to the never-say-die attitude that Rangers have displayed this year.
Yes, Fiorentina are 4th in the Serie A, but Bremen are 2nd in the Bundesliga, Lyon are tops in France, Panathinaikos are 3rd in Greece, and, if we include Barcelona (3rd in Spain) then that's some great experience for the lads in a year when we never expected to do anything other than be respectable.

Any team which treats Rangers lightly are likely to suffer a shock. Let's hope the Gers can flatter to deceive.
20

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 04:29:27
Watched the game on TV yesterday and I reckon that's just about the worst performance I've seen from Rangers this season.
Sad for St. Johnstone to lose a semi final on penalties but there had to be a winner.
If Ragners perform like that against Fiorentina then the European run will be over, which might be no bad thing considering the number of casualties they seem to be picking up at this crucial time in the season.
An interesting week lies ahead I think !!!
21

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 04:31:01
For "Ragners" read "Rangers"..... it's Monday morning and I've had a heavy weekend !!
22

Fayneant,

NZ 21/04/2008 04:55:06
21 - Angoos - and here was me thinking you meant to say 'Ratners'....;-)
23

ChinaBear,

Hong Kong 21/04/2008 05:00:05
A poor performance yes, a good result, yes. The dream continues. The Saints were good and played as you'd expect - with a great deal of spirit and effort. Such a team will always be difficult to beat in the circumstances.
Rangers were bad, but don't forget they had 8 changes, 2 early injuries and a striker down with last minute flu. They were playing on an poor pitch, hit the post and had a certain penalty turned away.
Fiorentina will be a whole new ball game and I do think this could be a game too far. However, at least Rangers will be playing a similar role to that of St Johnston yesterday and we know how close they came to getting into the final....... Say no more.
24

Loki,

Valhalla 21/04/2008 05:27:05
Management should pay the extra money and play Buffel in the remaining games. It will be worth it. Is it 500k?

As long as we do a Calzaghe in the league - knocked down but win on points.

Bonus: PLG/PSG look doomed as Lens pull away from the bottom 3 in Lique 1.
25

Bosco Bhoy,

21/04/2008 05:57:08
No matter the quality of performance RFC fans will and shouldnt care less over the next few weks as long as the results go your way.

Agree 100% with Bemused at #2 when he says that your potentially looking at the most successful season in RFC history.

Hopefully the mighty Celtic can have some input into how that pans out. One thing for sure its far more interesting run in than when either of us have it wrapped before Easter.

Good luck to the decent bears against the Italians which is far from mission impossible.
26

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 05:58:16
#22 Fayneant

The way Rangers played yesterday they were as cr@p as anything you could buy from Ratners !!
Still, A win is a win and at this stage in the season I guess performances, even though it would be nice to see a decent one now and then, take second place to results !!
27

Fayneant,

NZ 21/04/2008 06:08:03
26 - Angoos, you're not wrong there, mate!

Good to see wee Buffel gettig a game yesterday, but how must Alan Gow feel right now? This game would arguably have suited him better than Buffel, but still no show.

If the injuries to Naismith and Burke are bad I think we are really going to start suffering - Smith has been able to chop and change a little between games of late, but with no back ups left he'll have to resort to playing the same players into the ground. He may even have to give Andy Webster a game..!
28

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 06:16:19
I was a bit surprised that Gow didn't get a shout yesterday.

Heard a rumour that he's going on loan to some team in Sweden during the summer break.
Will ask my brother today to ask him whether it's true or not.

I can see some of the so called "fringe" players having to make a rather important contribution to the team if the injuries keep piling up the way they're doing just now.
29

Tennscot,

McMinnville 21/04/2008 06:20:40
Angoos.... Stay Safe Man.
30

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 06:25:47
Wow I've heard no complaining aboot the Rangers penalty, sadly I didn't watch the game, but usually you'd huv arthurscross/Idee commenting oan Rangers losing and then getting a penalty!!

Congrats Rangers! Ya bunch of jammy &*$%#
31

celticdaft,

21/04/2008 06:56:31
any comments from the gers fans who ridiculed the 30 odd thousand that turned up for the aberdeen celtic game? It was all oooo only 30000 so now what 26000. if you are going to make a point have some grounds for it
32

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 07:00:51
#30 BAB

The penalty award for Rangers was a soft one but there was also the incident where Buffel was scythed down in the box which was a stonewall penalty and wasn't given. Another example of the inconsistency of refereeing standards in Scotland unfortunately.

No doubt the folk you are talking about will make their feelings known at some stage during the day ;-)
33

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 07:39:14
#33 The refereeing standards have never been great, its aboot time for some changes!!
34

Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

Lucksville, Arizona 21/04/2008 07:50:17
16 Oor Wullie.
"That you can go still further in your remaining three competions solely on the basis of this (luck) goes against the grain with those of who believe it is an attribute in finite supply, one which should be shared out evenly and rightly so."
Who is it that isn't sharing out the luck evenly? The SPL? Now that really is taking paranoia to extremes. Alas, I think you'll find that there's no such thing as "luck", dude, only boring old statistics.

I agree with you about our chances of winning the quad. I reckon we'll be bumped out by Fiorentina, but, hey ho.

As for the treble, it's still a distinct possibility -I'd rather be in our shoes than in timothy's Clarks Commandos. (Remember them?).

As for Kooooooh Saaaahn, I reckon we needed him and his couldn't-care-less attitude yesterday: any die-hard Ger would have through tried too hard and blootered that penalty over the bar .

Another master-stroke by Sir Walter? What do you think FIAT? Enjoy the ride.
35

The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 08:16:16
In the most recent Celtic v Rangers game, provided yet another shocking display from Mr Kenny Clarke where his judgement once again must bring his impartiality into question at best.

Though let me state I have complaint with the result...celtic deserved their win on the night

This weekend we have seen a referee at the Celtic v Aberdeen game Mr Brines, one of supposedly, our top flight referees. This man's lack of reasonable judgement is I believe not due to his impartiality, but due in the main to his incompetence to actually referee a top flight football match.

Yesterday, two players stretchered off one through a hefty challenge and the other though a blatant stamp. and the first tackle Dailly makes its a yellow card..

This incompetence is driving punter away to watch the juniors or even lower leagues where at least you feel as a punter you are not being shafted.

The whole refereeing organisation has to be reviewed as there is a major problem, which is getting worse, in fact it is now embarrassingly bad and very detrimental to the reputation, integrity and competence of our game..

What’s more worrying is that I am starting to sound like a paranoid celtic fan!!!



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imprimatur,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 21/04/2008 08:22:46
Never seen the game yesterday.

Though Koooooh-Saaaaahn saving the game with a penalty awarded to Ragz surprises no-one.


From the Corruption.Is.Successful cup to the Scottish Cup matters not one jot.
Does it.
37

Fayneant,

NZ 21/04/2008 08:26:23
36 - if you want to see common assault in the name of football, then yes, juniors is the level you need to be watching!

As this paper has stated, both injuries to Rangers players were accidental - nobody else is looking to make more from it. I suggest you leave such suggestions of dark forces to those of the Celtic persuasion.

Sad
Isn't it?
Mr Undeniable Truth??
38

The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 08:26:56
#37
If you never seen the game, then your biased assessment of events bears no relevance
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ninenro,

21/04/2008 08:28:06
7 BE
I agree on the 4-2-3-1 but I think he will go with Alexander Broadfoot Cuellar Weir Smith Dailly Hemdani Novo (right) Davis Whittaker (left) Darcheville. Another tight performance should see us keep another clean sheet and if we nick a goal then great. If anything this line up will be slightly more attack minded. Looking forward to another great European night at Ibrox c`mon the Teds !!
40

The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 08:34:37
#38
So Now we have a yahoo prepared to accept what's written in the newspaper, this is indeed a rarity, as the written word provided within the media is the cornerstone for most yahoo conspiracy theories.

Shuggy Keevens is even being called into question by Yahoo, as he is daring to question the competence or lack of the manager and players at cp.

I only write it the way I see it, and it was a hefty challenge and a blatant Stamp....I suppose having seem Steven McManus break a couple of legs lessens the yahoo impact on such tackles.

It only heightens my belief that there is a problem at referee HQ, when Timothy is defending them!!!
41

Johnny Jambo,

21/04/2008 08:38:18
First off, well done to Rangers for getting to the final and keeping their hope of a quadruple alive.

However I remember when Hearts were taken to penalties by another first division team in the Scottish Cup, (Gretna who were the Champipons of the division at the time) the slating Hearts fans got on this forum was unbelievable. I am not one to give out a slating for this but I just wanted to say, what goes around comes around.

I also know that there will be those who say that Rangers were a shadow team, but lets be honest that is still no excuse when you consider the gulf between the sides.
42

imprimatur,

C.R.A.P. CannaeRewardAssaultPal !!!!!! 21/04/2008 08:40:19
Aiden McGeady has just been awarded the PFA Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year by his fellow Scottish professionals.

Hamilton Accies manager Billy Reid was awarded Manager of the Year.

Scottish Football needed a degree of honesty and fairness injected into it.
Scotlands own Footballers have now done that and been SEEN to have done that.

So well done and three cheers to Scotlands Footballers
Isn`t it.
43

Will1875,

21/04/2008 08:41:17
Roman Romanov has a point. Scottish Football is corrupt, Rangers won the CIS cup due to dodgy refereeing and got to the Scottish Cup Final in the same way.

No way was it a penalty Cousin was going down before the player got near him. Another case of OF cheating and the SFA condoning it. Well I suppose Gordon Smith wouldn't do anything else would he. He's had a good first year in charge a potential treble for Rangers.
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

21/04/2008 08:41:26
Glad they went through but I won't be on the waiting list for the DVD.
Interestingly, there's not much of the usual heated comments, except for the usual bitter trolls working up their own bile.
Is everyone sane bored?
45

ninenro,

21/04/2008 08:43:41
Well done Billy Reid another bluenose on the up !!!
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revenger,

21/04/2008 08:48:09
Looks like our dear friend NN/if etc.,under the name imprimatur, is making slanderous allegations about corruption etc. again.
If the "Scotsman" is going to allow him to conduct this campaign through its pages, what's the chances of them contacting the poster, getting the evidence and sharing it with the rest of us?
They could even send it to Sir David Murray's legal office.
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The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 08:48:22
#43
I presume your honesty comes from an anti Rangers bias.

Honesty my fellow citizen comes from a judgement having reviewed all aspects, something I fear you are incapable of.

I personally couldn’t care less, the only trophies worth considering are the SPL Title, Scottish Cup, and the already won CIS Cup all look tyo be heading Ibrox way...

Doesn’t that hurt!!!!
I feel your Pain

Still Yahoo might win the reserve cup next week!!


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Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 08:48:29
#43 At least current fitba players are guid judges...
Unlike the ex-pros, commentators and Journos that gave it tae Cuellar.

It wiz a tossup between Walter and Reid. Glad they both goat awards!
50

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 21/04/2008 08:51:08
#45 Wayne

I was bored.... almost as much as I was watching the game yesterday ;o)
Looks like you're right about the "Breakfast Bile Brigade"
It's nice to come on here at lunchtime and see all the usual suspects have woken up and started their postings. Keeps me smiling through the afternoon !!
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The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 08:53:37
I love to see the hatred Yahoo has for Sir Walter of Carmyle

Long may that hatred cntinue....I think Your anti Walter hatred is less thatn the hatred Yahoo have for wee gs......Keep it up...Walter will be around longer than the ginger whinger..

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21/04/2008 08:55:23
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John H,

edinburgh 21/04/2008 08:58:21
Rangers get a dodgy penalty. Never. It just does not happen.
Pull the other trouser leg up.
54

67 was a joke,

The Rangers End 21/04/2008 09:00:01
32

Yeah you and your criminally insane amigos are certainly daft.

You've apparently bought season tickets yet won't turn up. The amount of spare seats at P'heid was a jhoke.

At the end of the day it's been ultra expensive to follow Rangers this year and the game was live on tv, unlike Saturday's fix.
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imprimatur,

R.U.I.N.S RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 21/04/2008 09:02:58
#39

Biased assessment? where ?

In post #37,where ?
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I-Mac,

21/04/2008 09:07:17
"Rangers get a dodgy penalty" (#54)

Nope.

Rangers did get a stonewall penalty turned down though.
57

The Undeniable Truth,

21/04/2008 09:14:26
it appears that Rangers are the only team in the league, who never get a justifiable penalty, they are all dodgy in the mindset of yahoo.

some cant see The Undeniable Truth when its staring them in the face
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imprimatur,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 21/04/2008 09:16:26
Big Kooooh-Saaaaahns jaw must still be hurting.

Did you notice his celebration after scoring the undeserving "winner" ?

Naw...neither did I !!

Its as if he was signalling that he recognised his earlier "penalty" was nothing of the kind and was refusing to celebrate an undeserving win.

Shades of Marco Negri.
Isn`t it.
59

Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:20:29
31 James.

Smith never mentioned an extension, and that quote doesn't allude to an extension either, unless that's how you wish to interpret it.

Smith made a statement weeks ago that Rangers had not and will not request an extension to the season

As for your other comments, they just show you to be bitter, and full of hatred.

So, where are all these newspaper articles where Smith is referred to as "Walter"?
60

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 09:24:19
There was a link on here a few mins ago tae a Darryl Broadfoot article, either I'm losing it or it's been red-carded. (are you allowed tae post links?) If not, can you tell me what its aboot so I don't have tae read all his articles, he bores me tae death sometimes!
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Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:24:46
32

The crowd was 36,050.

So you're only 10,000 out.

More lies? Who'd have thought it?
What was the attendance of the Celtic Aberdeen game again?
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imprimatur,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !! 21/04/2008 09:25:26
#48 Rev Angry

Slanderous comments and allegations...where ?

As for corruption, The City of London Police closed down Ibrox last July.
Rangers were the first-and-only Scottish Club to be forcibly closed by police in Scottish Footballs entire history, whilst undertaking their fraud and corruption enquiries.

No one is saying,yet,that anyone at Ibrox is guilty of fraud and/or corruption.

That would be silly.
Wouldn`t it.
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Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:27:29
37

What's the point in commenting if you don't have a clue what happened? Novo scored the (legitimate) penalty during the match, and Cousin scored the last penalty after extra time.
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Malc.F,

france 21/04/2008 09:27:36
The penalty was very soft but it balanced out to a certain extent with the ref not giving the Buffel one.
No one has seen fit to mention the foul by Dailly on Milne that was a clear penalty but not given according to the commentators "Cos he got his shot off" Do they even know the rules? Also if he had given it Dailly would have had to go.
Let's face it Rangers were lucky but we may have the pleasure of seeing QOS beat them in the Final. Please let me ref it and I will show you the tue meaning of bias.
65

Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:34:06
43

Idee. The votes were cast in February before Fadin Aiden faded.

Perhaps the conspiracy theorists will now accept that there is no agenda against Celtic in footballing circles?
66

Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:35:52
44

So you didn't see Brines disallowing Aberdeens legitimate equaliser against Celtic on Saturday which would all but finished Celtic's season?

Or does that not count?
67

Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:37:19
50

The players voted in February and the journalists a month ago...hence the difference.
68

Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:38:25
59

We don't care. Get over it.
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Johnny G,

21/04/2008 09:40:16
63

The Police never "closed down" Ibrox. You're beuing silly now.

The only ground ever to be "closed down" in Scottish football history is not Ibrox. I'll give you a clue. It's in the East End of Glasgow.
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Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 09:41:56
#67 I take it you never watched the game??? Just a few mins earlier, Celtic had a legitimate goal disallowed.... Refs making up for previous decisions!
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arthurscross,

21/04/2008 09:42:57
“I thought there were a couple of people ahead of me for Player of the Year and I thank my team-mates for helping me win and my fellow professionals who voted for me."
McGeady, who was presented with his trophies by Celtic coach Neil Lennon, took a light-hearted pop at Rangers' Nacho Novo. In a reference to claims made by the striker in the aftermath of Wednesday's Old Firm match, McGeady said: "I am glad I managed to climb out of Nacho Novo's pocket twice to win both awards." Celtic have scooped Player of the Year for three seasons in a row. McGeady follows in the footsteps of last year's top man, Shunsuke Nakamura, and Shaun Maloney, who won the double in 2006.
Rangers' management and first team stars had been scheduled to take a table at the awards dinner in the Glasgow's Hilton Hotel but Record Sport understands they cancelled.”
I wonder why the didn’t attend for the 2nd year in a row they didn’t win any of the fellow peers awards? How come the Media and the SPL see football different from the professionals when it comes to voting for awards?
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I-Mac,

21/04/2008 09:48:54
'No one has seen fit to mention the foul by Dailly on Milne that was a clear penalty but not given according to the commentators "Cos he got his shot off"' (#65)

Actually, ex-Celt John Collins said Dailly played the ball.

Rangers certainly weren't "lucky" with officiating yesterday. Rangers' penalty was very much a correct award - but the SJ player should have had a card. Rangers had a cast-iron penalty not given when Buffel was scythed down when about to tap the ball into goal. Novo was wrongly given offside twice when clear on goal (once when he was very clearly onside). Then there's the question of the injuries to Burke and Naismith - especially the apparent stamp on the latter....
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 21/04/2008 09:50:54
That was a long shift yesterday at Hampden.

StJohnstones hatchet men got what they deserved in the end.

Thomas Buffell was a dissapointment, having waited a while for his chance to play I expected more from the Belgian.

One more question. When was the last time a player was seriously injured by a Rangers player?

McGregor, McCulloch, Burke, Naismith - all victims of hatchet men.

If Rangers fail to win the league & or the UEFA Cup, it will be a victory for the hatchet men.


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Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 09:52:05
#74 och git tae .....
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imprimatur,

S.W.A.L.L.Y. SirWantawayAbsenteeLandLordYes !!! 21/04/2008 10:07:39
#74

Sheeebaue scythed down Andy Webster in his first training session at Wantsaway Park in Milngavie.

Ragz` PR put it about that that was the reason for Websters no-show rather than Mad Vlad(my erse)being responsible with dragging Rangers and Webster kicking and screaming through the good offices of FIFA.

It was entertaining though.
Wasn`t it.
77

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 21/04/2008 10:07:50
#72 player of the year
shaun who??? nuff said

knackered motor off to greener pastures
and mac gay day too no doubt

celtc must love producing all these high quality players
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 21/04/2008 10:09:29
#77 Thanks for proving my point.

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Rabbie Burns,

Back Home 21/04/2008 10:11:35
For what it is worth, my teams for the next 2 upcoming matches would be:

vs. Fiorentina on Thursda:
Alexander; Broadfoot, Cuellar, Weir, Papac; Hemdani; Whittaker, Davis, Buffel, Novo; Darcheville. With Cousin, Boyd, Smith, Dailly etc on the bench.

vs. Celtic on Sunday:

McGregor; Whittaker, Dailly, Weir, Papac; Davis, Ferguson, Thomson, McCulloch; Darcheville, Boyd. Subs to include Broadfoot, Buffel, Cousin, Novo, Hemdani

Injuries are a worry, some have been simply bad luck. I think having Ferguson and Thomson back for the Celtic game is important. Cuellar is a miss, but Dailly or Papac could step in to the central defensive role. Also, Stevie Smith's return is a bonus.

C'mon boys, keeping going. Even a loss to Celtic next Sunday (which I don't think will happen) and we'd be 5 pts behind with 3 games in hand. Celtic are running out of games.
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Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 10:15:02
#80 2 strikers against Celtic?? are you entertained enuff wi' one?
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Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 10:15:19
*not entertained
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 21/04/2008 10:24:23
#80 Rab,

Is Thomson not suspended for next Sunday?

I cant see Walter dropping Daily & Buffel will only play if there are no other options.

Very dissapointed in Buffel yesterday although to be fair he has been out for a while.

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Mr Majestic,

21/04/2008 10:25:39
#62 - crowd at Celtic Park was 55,766. Crowd at hampden was 26,180, so it's you that is 10,000 out.

Is it just me that has an advert at the bottom of this page from uk.shopping.com asking me to buy Glasgow Rangers Fc?

I know Murray wants to sell but has he really had so little interest in the club that he has had to resort to posting the club on the internent and not even e-bay!!!
85

DLD,

21/04/2008 10:26:36
Lucky B's again! how much luck can one team have in a season? Rangers are crap but so are Celtic and the rest of the SPL. c'mon Fiorentina and QOS
86

Brother Walfrid,

21/04/2008 10:28:57
80

McULLOCH and McGregor are both injured for the Celtic game and Thomson is still banned.

Dailly was struggling yesterday and should have had a second yellow on THREE occassions, the third of which was the penalty Saint Johnstone were denied.

Dailly's fitness is his problem and that's why he's a decent candidate for two yellows on Sunday.
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ninenro,

21/04/2008 10:30:31
86
2 plus 2 equals ?
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rorie,

alloa 21/04/2008 10:32:14
fiorentina could really be doing without these two meaningless friendlies against rangers as they are trying to gain one of the top spots in the italian league,still, it will be good match practice for some of their fringe players as they prepare to meet bayern munich or zenit in the diddy cup final.
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Brother Walfrid,

21/04/2008 10:33:44
Come what may in the spl, QoS will represent Scotland in UEFA and our co-efficient will get savaged.

Great.
90

Bhoy Against Bigotry,

21/04/2008 10:39:18
#90 When do we start giving that spot tae 4th place??
91

bring them on,

21/04/2008 10:39:54
So Rangers are in yet another final.

What's the big deal.
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Rabbie Burns,

Back Home 21/04/2008 10:40:20
Thanks for the info. about injuries & suspensions. It is hard to keep pace with everything. As for rorie #89, at least Gers will have appeared in at least 2 cup finals this season. How many have Alloa appeared in, or should I say Celtic being your true allegiance? The 'Diddy Cup' was good enough for them in 2003 wasn't it?