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Published Date: 08 August 2008
By Gavin McCafferty
ABERDEEN have agreed to pay Celtic and Rangers a 5 per cent levy on ticket sales for Pittodrie games against the Old Firm – but only after raising the price for away supporters.
A seat in the South Stand will be £1 more expensive for Old Firm games than other "category B" games against the nine other Premier League clubs.

Aberdeen will also charge the same handling fee for selling tickets to their travelling fans for visi
ts to Glasgow.

The Old Firm angered their SPL rivals this summer by demanding the 5 per cent charge for distributing away tickets.

Aberdeen have got round the problem by raising the price – although home fans in the South Stand will also have to pay an extra £1 for Old Firm matches. However, they will be entitled to a £1 discount for one of the following two home games.

Managing director Duncan Fraser said: "As a club which, alongside the Old Firm, have almost all away fixtures ticket only, we understand the time and cost issues that this results in.

"We, however, have decided against going down this route to ensure that we handle the distribution of all our away tickets. At the very outset my aim was to ensure that both Aberdeen fans who regularly attend home games were not out of pocket.

"I also wanted to ensure that the club were cash neutral. The actions I have put in place will ensure that this is the case."

Falkirk have sold away tickets to Rangers fans themselves for tomorrow's SPL opener rather than pay the charge, while Hearts have pledged to follow suit. But Dundee United "reluctantly" agreed to pay the charge to Celtic for their 17 August clash at Tannadice after the Parkhead club allegedly threatened to refuse tickets.





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08/08/2008 00:51:45
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2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 01:22:15
None of the laptoployalists have cracked a light about the angry scenes in Kaunas when Scotland's Shame turned their attentions on former chairman John McLelland and subjected him to vile abuse.

Next up was Martin Bain, who was accompanied by his young son and according to son-of-the-manse Graham Spiers, the boy became visibly upset by the abuse directed against his father by these lumps of excrement. Hugh McDonald in yesterday's herald reported that this abuse of Bain continued at Kaunas airport, where the flight was delayed.

Spiers also reports that these 'fans' waited for Walter to appear at the stadium after the match so as to give him pelters of abuse too.

Only a couple of weeks ago, Gordon Strachan had a momentary spat with ONE Celtic fan during a friendly match and the scottish 'newspapers' were packed full of reports and long ponderous articles about the incident.

Rearrangerz go into meltdown in Kaunas , board members and the manager are sought out and subjected to , especially in Martin Bain's case, utterly despicable torrents of relentless abuse.

But not a dickie bird about it from the laptoployalists.
3

Who's it gonna be? ,

08/08/2008 01:41:40
Still cheesing after Hertz B demoloshing the unwashed most hated club in the world. Stick your 5% increase. Your clubs are making YOU pay more to watch a shower of rubbish. Good enough for you.

No Mighty Rangers in Europe.

Scotland's shame are getting what they deserve after their disgusting fans' run of truly barbaric and embarrassing behavior. A disgrace to Scotland and Britain.

GIRFUY
4

Doubly-negative,

08/08/2008 01:49:14
Just when you thought the OF couldn't get any more despicable if they tried, and the SFA couldn't kiss their erses any more tongue-ily.

Quite how the OF were able to just change the rules, without any ratification of governing bodies, and quite why they should be allowed to do this, being as they are the two richest clubs in Scotland already, amazes and disgusts me. It's the usual 'all animals are equal, but some animals sare more equal than others' effect.

Well done the Dons. Why should we bend over and allow the OF to have their own way?

2Pasquenade- your post is off-topic.
5

oldpro,

In The Middle 08/08/2008 03:33:18

Wake Up, rules never apply to the Mafia.......
6

Ex-Pat Stanton,

08/08/2008 04:02:44
Personally it would not bother me a jot if the OF fans were missing from games at ER...

If i want to hear folk songs sung badly and with extra bits thrown in for good measure, i'll just head down the Celtic (wih a K sound) club here in Melbourne and watch the drunks go for it...
7

SOFBTRC,

Far, far from Glasgow 08/08/2008 04:18:22
"Falkirk have sold away tickets to Rangers fans themselves for tomorrow's SPL opener rather than pay the charge, while Hearts have pledged to follow suit. But Dundee United "reluctantly" agreed to pay the charge to Celtic for their 17 August clash at Tannadice after the Parkhead club allegedly threatened to refuse tickets."

Why the "inverted commas" around "reluctantly"? Do you think United gladly agreed to this blackmail tactic? Unlike Aberdeen, we already had tickets printed up and ready to distribute when the ugly sisters announced their latest shameful scheme.

Well done to Aberdeen though, although I don't know why they were worried about ensuring they finished up "cash neutral". The ugly sisters didn't give a flying f*** about our cash neutrality when they levied this charge, so why should we worry about that? I'd have raised all the tickets by two quid and made a larger profit. I'd also have handed all home fans two pound coins in exchange for their ticket at the gate. Call it a gift from the Clubs to their own fans. Easy.

Having said all of that, the Rangers "fans" were already boycotting Tannadice this season because big bad Craig Levein dared to question the authority of the Grand Masters, and after their result this week, I'd expect to see a very significant decline in "ra faithful" travelling to away games anyway.

They really are as objectionable a crowd of individuals as you're ever likely to come across, aren't they?

SOFBTRC!
8

Doubly-negative,

08/08/2008 05:37:30
"The ugly sisters didn't give a flying f*** about our cash neutrality when they levied this charge, so why should we worry about that?"

Because we're not like them.
9

bring them on,

08/08/2008 06:09:57
Knock me down with a feather.

Aberdeen make a decision.
10

Nell,

Far from the Struan 08/08/2008 08:04:14
Well done Aberdeen. Now lets all the other clubs follow suit.
11

viewfromgorgie,

Edinburgh 08/08/2008 08:10:02
Don't forget to sign the petetion folks.
Get ALL 10 teams to stand up to these leeches

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/stop-the-old-firm-bully-tactics.html
viewfromgorgie.blogspot.com
12

Big Mertin,

08/08/2008 08:12:31
Get rid of the old firm! On so many fronts, i want them to go away.
13

SimonW,

Edinburgh 08/08/2008 08:19:45
What's all this "Well done Aberdeen" p1sh?

They gave in, they agreed to the charge.

Well done Falkirk.
14

Nell,

Far from the Struan 08/08/2008 08:41:46
No. 13:- They're passing the cost onto the OF fans. Its up to them now if they don't like it.
15

X40,

ABZ 08/08/2008 08:50:19
What's all this "Well done Aberdeen" p1sh?

Er...it's because Aberdeen "done well".

Might be an idea to try and absorb the information within the story before waffling random and irrelevant, as you would say, p1sh.
16

Doubly-negative,

08/08/2008 08:53:01
OTHER NEWS:

Palaentologists discover the Mother of all Rangers Fans':

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/aug/08/evolution.genetics
17

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 08/08/2008 09:08:24
I applaud both Falkirk and Aberdeen for their stance but would also have charged more than £1 extra. Call it supply and demand but if more of them want to come, which is the reason for so many all-ticket games, then they should have to pay more to secure their ticket.

As a Hearts fan I think we should offer them the option of selling the tickets for free and if they dont then tell them to send them back by the usual cut off date and we'll sell them to hearts fans........imagine no having to put up with Old Firm fans....superb
18

Who?,

08/08/2008 09:37:48
Firstly: #7- very good post. I have to say i agreed with a lot of what you wrote.

Secondly- I feel for dundee utd, it was an awful situation to be put in and they had to do whats best for the club. However i do get the feeling that for future games against the OF a different strategy maybe followed.

Lastly- If the OF refuse to sell the tickets unless you agree to their blackmail then take the tickets back. Initiate a one off offer that allows a child under 10 to go for free with an adult purchased ticket. Not having the ugly sisters at our grounds will reduce the stewarding and policing costs and well as the cleaning bill.

However if a game took place with no OF fans in attendance whats the bets that the OF would complain to the GFA who would no doubt fine the club involved?

The online pettition above is a good idea, however a better pettition would be to instigate a top to bottom reform of the gfa turing them into: The Association of SCOTTISH football!
19

FC Barcelona,

08/08/2008 10:05:35
who are the old firm? no-one in europe has heard much about them, especially rangers
20

Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 10:34:33
#17

"imagine no having to put up with Old Firm fans....superb"

Aye right! Your club along with the rest of the Scottish sides would go down the tubes.

You need the money sonny!
21

busbyfh,

08/08/2008 10:35:35
Wait and see what happens at the games where the OF fans have been unvetted - This should be interesting ......and lets not fool each other - Aberdeen did better than DU but still semi copped out. An actual refusal would have offended , but more importantly COST THEM MONEY. By charging the Weegies (and pseudo ones) £1 it keeps relationships between clubs OK , saves a bit of face and gains more dosh.
It fools nobody ! A PLAIN REFUSAL OF THE LEVY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.

I totally admire Falkirk for their stance AND FFFHibs for following suit - My club would NEVER agree to Weegie domination - Our "unique" owner would and will take great delight in doing the exact opposite from WHATEVER they want. That is when he is not too busy waving his Hearts scarf directly at the Rangers hierarchy just as they were wiping their tears last Wednesday. Vlad maybe bad news in many respects but at least he leads the way when standing up to the ugly sisters.
22

paulmac,

surrey 08/08/2008 10:36:52
If the the other 10 clubs find the 5% admin fee unacceptable.....then I'm sure they will also be rejecting the TV fees from Sky, Setanta and all the other foreign Companies who have purchased Scottish football on the back of Celtic and Rangers.....to the smaller clubs financial benefit...

Why don't these same 10 clubs just refuse to sell any tickets to Celtic and Rangers.......sorry forgot they need the substantial amount of cash it brings in from Celtic and Rangers fans.....

Or....why don't these same clubs levy an admin charge for the tickets they are given for the away fixtures at CP or Ibrox.....sorry forgot most if not all of these clubs bring very few fans.....thus fehuck all admin costs...

The cost of administration is significant for Celtic and Rangers....and for the past 10 years we have provided it at no cost...to the smaller clubs benefit....
23

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 10:52:41
#20 Royalty
What a load of tosh!
You're suggesting that Hearts would die a death if not for the Old Firm's visits to Tynecastle? Utterly laughable!
We'd be one of the clubs hit least hard by this, away and have a look at the actual facts instead of believing the OF "you can't live without us" hype.

#22 "Why don't these same 10 clubs just refuse to sell any tickets to Celtic and Rangers"
Because we're not allowed to. I'm sure we'd love to but we can't. That's rules that is.
24

busbyfh,

08/08/2008 10:54:24
# 22

The opposing fans don't go to Glasgow as they are treated like 5hit by the stewards AND police.Have been for years and there have been many complaints made officially - Ignored of course by purveyors of pure arrogance.
25

Who?,

08/08/2008 10:55:40
#20- We need the money sonny? I think your club does- £100m in debt, no assets and an owner who has tried to flog you but nobody will even take you for free- what a joke!

#22 Most teams take very few fans to glasgow due to the way they are treated by the locals, clubs stewards and police. Not to mention paying £25+ to watch a referee giving the home team whatever they want decision-wise. Most of the time OF players don't wait for a referees whistle they simply stop the game, pick up the ball then take the free kick when their ready.

The axis of evil (OF, gfa, glasgow media) don't have long left running scottish football- the winds of change are coming.
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gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 10:55:55
#22 If you think Celtic and Rangers are the be all and end all then your sadly mistaken. I would gladly see them relocate to England taking their hate filled traditions with them. Of course, this would lead to less cash kicking about the game but then clubs can focus on youth instead of trying to compete with the bigots and their world class signings - Gravesen, Donati, Mcculloch, Sebo!

A more comptetitve league awaits..so f**k off to England. Your nothing but a blight on society.
27

Indy Rep Kid...,

08/08/2008 11:12:20
Although Aberdeen have dealt with the problem well, and thrown the issue right back at Old Firm United, they still pandered to the request and that is my issue with it.

Unfortunately, that opens the door for further negotiations/demands further down the line and I can see the OF turning the screw on clubs like Hamilton, St Midden and Motherwell who do actually rely on the money.

I really hope Hearts and Hibs stand firm on this one....I think Aberdeen fans can safely retire their 'Stand Free' song now.
28

Molz,

porty 08/08/2008 11:14:28
Falkirk will have 2500 Rangers fans at The stadium Tomorrow. If none of them were actually there they would lose c.£50,000 in gate money. Quite a lot for the club, but not the end of the world. No OF fans woud be a loss of around £200,000 if Falkirk played them 4 times at home in a season. Once you take off the VAT, the MASSIVE extra policing charges, and the fact that a significant number of home fans will not attend due to the general hassle of having their fans there, it is becoming more and more marginal.
Of course there is the effect the hordes have on the referee. If that's worth even 1 point to Falkirk, or any of the other teams in the SPL, then that's another 80 grand in SPL prize money to them. So really, maybe Falkirks gamble is not so big after all.
29

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:16:41
#27 I agree, it'll be the smaller west coast teams who kowtow to this in the end. The Killies and Hamiltons do need the money and will do whatever it takes to secure it IMO.

I'm glad Romanov is who he is in this instance- he'll never let his one go and Hearts can live without OF fans if it comes down to a showdown.
30

Nell,

Far from the Struan 08/08/2008 11:21:33
No. 26:- Slight problem, England does not want them.
31

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:31:01
Hearing the hurt is like music to my ears. Wallowing in denial

Mc Curry that Old-Firm referee .... LOL. Celtic got 3 times as many bookings in the first OF game last season than Rangers got in January, February and March this year

The SFA asking the SPL for an extension for Rangers european exertions. Not that one was ever offered or fought for on behalf of the SFA for DU in 87 or Celtic in 03 and who won the SPL both those years?

The SFA is littered with 2nd and 3rd generation Irish immigrants and guys like George Graham, Ernie Walker, Jim Farry, Gordon Smith went out of there way to champion;-) the Celtic cause. And if you know your history LOL

You got to be a border line retard or have an agenda like Romanov if you believe that. Ask Barry Robson how many caps he should have!

Celtic is Scottish football. Without us you would have nobody left to hate.

Its´good to know that Romanovs wee kaunas put more into the Celtic coffers than any of your clubs are going to earn in the next two years.

When you go to the wall dont worry ---Like Airdrieonians ...your failed chairman will get an invite to the powerhouse of Scottish football Stenhousemuir so that he can become the head of the SFA and be summoned to Charlotte sqaure while taking a 30k grant of you at the whim of David Murray. So you´ll all still have something to cheer about.... until the week before the clocks go back

4 in a row ... here we go
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 11:37:44
Glorious Hearts

As the chap from Surrey @22 rightly said, Setanta & Sky only plough money into Scottish football because of Rangers & Celtic.

Its all about viewing figures, its simply a numbers game.

Without the OF, TV money would dry up & Hearts, Aberdeen & the other also rans would fold.

This is stating the bleeding obvious sonny.
33

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:39:41
#31 typical OF arrogance.
And they wonder why they get tarred with the same brush. You're just 2 sides of the same ugly coin I'm afraid!
34

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:42:23
#32 indeed it is about figures. I'm not saying it wouldn't hurt in the short term if the OF left, but the increased competition would lead to higher crowds and more interest from those bored with the current duopoly. Scottish football would restructure and live on.

Leave, you want it, we want it. Don't play the concerned for our welfare card all of a sudden, just go as far as I'm concerned.
35

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:43:07
33,

should we accept the lies that you peddle that the SFA is Old Firm biased.. see my border line retard comment.

Vladimir thanks for the money .. you´ll get tonked in the next round by the Danes and the Baby gers will struggle to make the top 6 in the SPL again next year. Not that it will matter as the league will be wrapped up by then anyway.

Hail Hail
36

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:48:23
#34

Considering that Hearts left Scottish football to become a gimp too the Lithuanians .. what 3 years ago .... hiring sex offenders as managers .. treating Scottish internationalists and Tynecastle legends like cheap tarts ...dont make me laugh. Rangers get into a bigger league and Hearts will lose >70% of their gates
37

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:48:27
#35 I was referring to your last paragraph, I couldn't care less about your squabbles with rangers or how you think other clubs see you.

Where exactly did I peddle a lie about the SFA being OF biased by the way?

Oh, I didn't. What was that about border line retard?
38

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:49:43
#36 wow what a considered and thoughtful argument. Was that your own work?
Like i say, just leave. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
You want it, we want it. Just go.
39

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 11:50:22
Thankyou to the Old firm. We are soooooo grateful that masses of your smelly weegie identikit supporters invade our towns and cities twice a year. How could we possibly survive without you? Having a chance of winning the league actually might bring in a few more through the turnstyles for other games so I think we'd be ok. If the old firm did leave for england then some of the weegie's would end up supporting their local teams, rather than getting pumped of Liverpool, ManU etc...
40

Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 11:50:42
#34

I know that CFC have made plenty of noise about leaving Scotland. Hardly surprising considering they care more about Ireland than their own country.

Remember Davy Hay mumbling "we'd be as well playing in Englund" as he trudged off the Hampden pitch after a Skol Cup final defeat in 1986?

As Sir David Murray has stated many times, Rangers are a Scottish Club & institution & are proud to be so.

Were here to stay.
41

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:52:14
#37,

And nobody cares two tuppeny F´s about youse ..isn´t that why Romanov´s involved in the first place. he sure does love those relegation battles
42

Indy Rep Kid...,

08/08/2008 11:53:51
#36

Larsson:"hiring sex offenders as managers"

you really wanna go down that route of discussion?

do you??

really???

Every post you come out with is arrogant nonsense that just solidifies the hatred towards Old Firm United (yes, you are one and the same club)
43

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:54:23
#40 you have a short memory!
I'm sure the rest of us remember both sides of the OF dressed up in miniskirts, bending over and showing the goods for the EPL's passing car.
"Want a good time dearie?"
"Jesus, look at the nick of them. Drive on!"
44

Silence of the Yams,

08/08/2008 11:55:59
Sheep caving in to Scotland's Shame? Shame!
45

Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 11:56:31
#42 I think you will find that this guys posts are typical of the "celtic minded" contributors to these threads.

Dont lump him in with fans of RFC.

No one likes them but they do care.
46

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 11:57:14
Rangers should just be concentrating on finishing in the top six this season. It's looking like a five way battle for 2nd.
47

Glorious Hearts,

08/08/2008 11:57:30
#37 You're not avoiding the question are you?

You said "should we accept the lies that you peddle that the SFA is Old Firm biased"

I replied "Where exactly did I peddle a lie about the SFA being OF biased by the way?"

Can you answer or are you admitting that your posts are generalisational BS and not worth paying attention to any more?

I'm bored with you now.
And Royalty, I'm bored with you too sonny. Run along now, there's a good lad. I hear Zandvoort's lovely at this time of the year.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:57:47
ADAM sold 12,000 of his 59,000 shares last year and the balance of 47,000 just recently. For the latter, he got £1.15 each; three years ago, they were valued at £3.45. He is convinced Rangers cannot trade their way out of trouble, unless they gain access to a league that will attract higher-bracket income from TV. He was in favour of the proposed Atlantic League, involving the Old Firm and clubs from Holland, Portugal and other countries, but is extremely sceptical of their chances of joining the English Premiership.

He is adamant that Rangers do not have the customer base to improve their financial standing through merchandising. "Rangers’ so-called global appeal is a myth," he said. "When I was there, we did an exercise which involved asking 50,000 fans on the database to recommend a friend or a relative abroad.

"A big response was expected - some were even talking about getting 100,000 names - because everybody in Scotland seems to know somebody abroad.

"We got back 2,800 names and three-quarters of them didn’t know they had been nominated. It’s no surprise that Celtic are officially the best-supported football club in North America, with more official clubs than anybody else. The difference is the Irish connection.

"Many Irish people may support Manchester United, Liverpool or whoever, but they all - every one of them - have an affection for Celtic. And, of course, Celtic also have a great Scottish following.

"The difference is that, while the Irish all have an allegiance to Parkhead, there are millions of Scots who not only don’t support Rangers, but actively dislike them. _ Hugh Adam ex Rangers director Feb 2002.

Rangers no longer have the profile .. cant even beat Hearts feeder club ..lucky to be in the SPL and getting the Rangers protection racket special treatment.
49

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 11:59:00
Gloriuous,

bored ? you know teh solution ...get on the bus to Ibrox
50

Indy Rep Kid...,

08/08/2008 11:59:31
#45

No. His posts are eerily similar to a number of posts from the other half of Old Firm United.

You're the same club. The joint ventures to either leave the SPl or bleed the clubs dry is the act of one club.

51

&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 12:02:41
#42,

fine you say it as you see it and I´ll say it as I see it.

I have facts on my side .. you have only supposition and a feeling of been slighted.

Whats´new ?

Hail Hail
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 12:05:38
Bleed the clubs dry .. through your own historical lack of support, identity and ability. You have sold your soul to the Lithiuanians ... wrapped and steeped in Unionism but when it suites pull out the saltire

Do me favour run along like Glorious has done and Royalty did yesterday ?
53

Calum Crubag,

Dùn Eideann 08/08/2008 13:06:30
#52 - 'Glorious' and 'Royalty', who are they? Some of the boys from King Billy's harem?

Stuff the OF. I'd be happy not to have their disgusting fans at other grounds. If only some of the home fans for the likes of Killie could make up the revenue loss.
54

Daillyman,

08/08/2008 13:43:56
36

"hiring sex offenders as managers"

Why even post rubbish like this on a football forum.

Sad isn't it. To borrow Idee's phrase.
55

BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 13:55:13
The article contains a very amusing and illuminating quote from the Aberdeen Managing Director...

"At the very outset my aim was to ensure that both Aberdeen fans who regularly attend home games were not out of pocket."

There's really only two who fit into that category these days?

Things have certainly slipped since their 1980's heyday.

56

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 14:12:41
#55
Hilarious.

You'll remember the mighty Rangers in the eighties failing to fill their stadium? (we're the biggest club in the UK...blah blah....)You lot need to get out of the central belt and see how many supporters you do have.
57

BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 14:17:38
#56

Yes, I'm old enough to remember it well. There is no doubt that, in general terms, attendance is linked to success, although back in the days when supporters stood rather than sat, capacities were a lot higher and stadia harder to fill.

Good central belt quip though. Unfortunately, I've lived in the south of England for 23 years. Indeed, the last time I lived in Scotland, Aberdeen were a serious football team.
58

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 14:20:50
Last time I lived in Glasgow i felt like a millionaire.
59

BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 14:22:24
I'll take your word for it. I've never lived in Glasgow.
60

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 14:28:38
Typical hvun fan then.
61

BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 14:32:51
If you say so. A strange concept that you're inferring, that you have to live in Glasgow to somehow legitimise supporting a Glasgow team.

I grew up only about 25 miles, or a half-hour car journey, from Ibrox, so Rangers were fairly local to me.
62

gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 14:34:42
25 miles? Must be about 10 teams closer to you than Mordor but everyone wants a winning team eh?
63

BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 14:40:25
Closest team was Kilmarnock at about 15 miles, followed by Ayr at roughly 20 miles.

Not particularly realistic though, to expect a 6 or 7 year-old to consider a difference of a few miles when all his friends and classmates were Rangers fans idolising Henderson, Grieg, Baxter etc, is it?
64

Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 14:40:31
#62 Whats the capacity of the new Aberdeen stadium going to be?

I'd reckon 10,000 at a push.

Highland league mentality, Highland league club.
65

2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 14:40:36
58

Depends what part of Glasgow you were staying in : there are parts of Glasgow where you would certainly need to be a millionaire to buy a house.

But perhaps the main advantage that Glasgow and indeed most other places have over Aberdeen is that the place doesn't stink of fish and 4play is a tad more sophisticated than 'brace yirsel' lass!'.
66

2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 14:43:59
Or should that be 'bess' ?
67

Daillyman,

08/08/2008 14:45:39
58

And where do you live now gothenburg?
68

Daillyman,

08/08/2008 14:49:11
65

I think AJ might give you an argument on 4play issue.

New wellies and Dollie the sheep on Friday nights, has it all over Glasgow
69

2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 14:51:37
Why is Mark Hately out trying to draw so much attention to himself ....is this a gartered leg we see for a wee coaching job down ibrox way ?

Or dare we say it, the top job if the next few weeks go as badly for Walter as current form suggests?

Suuuuuuurely no' that ? Nahhhh....but a Neil Lennon type appointment , the return of a die-hard in the hour of need?

I'm sure Hately would walk over broken glass in his bare feet for coaching job down govan way, and me thinks he's now angling for it. Tart!
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 14:52:16
68

"New wellies and Dollie the sheep on Friday nights, has it all over Glasgow"

Why even post rubbish like this on a football forum.

Sad isn't it. To borrow Idee's phrase.

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Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 14:55:29
#70

Posting rubbish is your forte.

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2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 14:59:57
Don't understand why the Crosas deal is taking so long to finalise.

The most complex part of the negotiation is with the club, but once that's out the way, agreeing personal terms should be a straightforward process.

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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:01:13
Royalty,

I thought you were too busy extrapolating that monkey in your breeks.

No substance to your posts yet again. feigned indignation .. the Nazi Huunnn way :-)

Tell me when it hurts so much .. why does it feel so good.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:04:46
http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/20981.html

why does Peat & Co not expel the Rangers youth team ? Rangers have been guilty of the exact same offence



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Daillyman,

08/08/2008 15:05:38
70

I would rather post a bit of humour than the tripe in you're post @ 36

But I suppose its hard for certain people to change.

3 Points for the Gers tomorrow at Falkirk and our campaign is on its way. The SPL title will be ours next May.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:08:15
#75,

that you cant see the difference will allude all to whom you support.

But I suppose its hard for certain people to change.
1972 Barcelona Manchester 2008 - I agree

I bet Falkirk are shaking in their shoes
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gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 15:09:15
Yes i live in Gothenburg now.

I thought freplay in Glasgow involved being held at knife point until agreement was reached?

The new capacity is around 22,000.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 15:09:25
Your patter is...well its not even patter.

Big Jock wouldnt be happy - if he knew.



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gothenburg1983,

08/08/2008 15:10:10
Aberdeen - 2 European trophies. No riots
Rangers - 1 european trophy. Two riots.


We welcome the chase

GIRFUY!
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:10:34
#78

again no substance LOL
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Daillyman,

08/08/2008 15:12:36
72 Patrick

Its starting for follow a familiar pattern much like the Deco, Tamas, Basa, Bent, and Paylachenko deals that went nowhere.

Reports are that the lad will sign for the tic, but you never know.

A German side is reportedly put in a 7-9 mil bid for Van Hessendlink, the tic should take the money and run.
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2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 15:15:25
74

Don't know about Rearrangerz youth team, but it seems there were clear breaches of the rules.

They are not arguing that they have a defence : they are merely saying that the decision was 'harsh'.

But they did know that non-compliance could bring about expulsion and sounds like they are just trying to blame others for their own shortcomings.

It's rotten for the youth teams, but I don't see that there has been any injustice here, and if they start letting teams off , they tie their hands for the future.

Look at George Burley ....what's he going to do should Sir Awex or Strachan stick two fingers in his face ?

It's better to apply the rules and avoid those kind of scenarios.
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SOFBTRC,

Far, far from Glasgow 08/08/2008 15:15:59
It's refreshing to see a Scotsman thread in which the voices of supporters from the other Clubs are drowning out the usual p1sh being spouted by the Old Firm follow-followers and hail-hailers.

Let's get a few things straight:

In the short term, the other Clubs would survive without Old Firm money. Unless the games at our grounds are "title deciders" or are otherwise decided to be "big games" by the one-shoed brigade, you don't bring a big enough crowd to be concerned about. For example, March 31st 2007, Celtic visit Tannadice. a win for Celtic will almost secure the league title (but not quite). Celtic were sent 5,500 tickets (as usual) and RETURNED MORE THAN 2000 OF THEM. But we still had the extra police and sanitation crews that had to be paid for in advance.

However could we survive without that sort of financial lifeline?

As far as TV deals go - while the latest deal might well have been secured on the back of the Old Firm, IT DOESN'T START FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS! The current TV deal is minor by comparison AND the majority of the cash goes to the ugly sisters anyway.

However could we survive without that sort of financial lifeline?

If the pair of you really would f*** off to another league, as you keep "threatening" to (and FYI, we don't see that as a threat - we live in hope that you'll really pull it off and go) then the SPL would immediately become more competitive. No OF domination. Several teams in with a chance of silverware and Europe. Increased crowds. Increased interest. People talking about aiming for first instead of aiming for third. We'll still get TV deals. Maybe for less money, but since the majority won't go to the ugly sisters any more, we'll all still be better off.

It's a no-brainer.

And if any group of people are ideally placed to understand a "no-brainer", you would have to think that it's the Old Firm fans.

SOFBTRC!
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Daillyman,

08/08/2008 15:17:01
81 The clone with no stones.

Don't be so jealous. I told you before you to could receive the rewards from having worked all you're life.

But first you would have to have held a job.

Have a nice day.
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paulmac,

surrey 08/08/2008 15:17:04
Pasq

The lad is in the USA....he still has to arrive back before he can put pen to paper to make it official...
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:20:25
#83,

But do the rules apply to everyone ?

If the teams that have not complied have their youth team removed from the elite league. Then so should Rangers youth team be expelled.

In answer to your question I would expect George Burley to act in the exact same way as when Walter Smith gives him the two fingers for every friendly international. offer to perform fellatio on him ?
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paulmac,

surrey 08/08/2008 15:24:39
Today marks the 100th day of May....

And still no announcement about the £700m Minty Megoriums Magicland Emporium project....

I'm starting to think this was all just a big front to cover for the debts being witheld and the sack cloth transfer of Hutton....
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paulmac,

surrey 08/08/2008 15:25:27
Any body know how the pie throwing went at Minty Park today?
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:27:10
#84

absolute and utter deluded pipe dream nonsense

You lost your UC place because Mc Curry was under strict SFA instructions and well you know it. Who know you might have made it to the final. You seemed to have the beating of last years UC finalists but sadly .. you were denied this opportunity ... denied by the Old Firm ??

Hint: He wasn´t helping Celtic

Watch Craig Levein meekly and quietly accept his 5,000 quid fine having been reminded that any future National coach position in the offing for him depends on it.

Hail Hail
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2Pasquenade ,

08/08/2008 15:29:12
82

The story is that it was Deco's agent who contacted Celtic after Jose Morinho made clear that he wasn't interested.

At that time, Deco was surplus to requirements at Barca and he wanted to move to a club where CL football was guaranteed.

There wasn't a hell of a lot of interest in Deco from teams guranteed CL football (there only are 16 in Europe) and Deco's agent sounded them all out.

If Deco had been a year older, I think he would have struggled to get a contract with a top tier club...he just made it.

As for Big Jan, it's supposed to be Hamburg.
Jan has two years left on his contract, and whilst the offer sounds tempting, I don't think there's time to find someone else and get them bedded for the start of spl business. If Hamburg had come in at the start of the window, my attitude would be different, but I wouldn't like to see him go just as we're about to get the season underway....unless the offer was absolutely rediculous, and for me £7m is darn good, but not absolutely rediculous.

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Daillyman,

08/08/2008 15:29:27
89

Try to figure this out, the world operated on various time zones.

When its 11pm here its 4am UK time, hope that's not to difficult for you. See a 5 hour time difference, easy to figure out even for you.

Pundit can do as he wishes, at least he had the stones to go with his own user name.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 15:34:49
#86
Rangers will still win the SPL this season.

Cut & paste that one in a few months time ya bampot.

LOL.
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Daillyman,

08/08/2008 15:36:16
90

Paul the only people who seem to be caught up in DM fantasies are the tic support.

RFC are not in the financial position to do anything to Ibrox and the surrounding properties, and RFC supporters have know that for years.

And with the banking and finance crunch worldwide, who would ever front the money in these unstable economic times.

Ch!!st we can't afford 5 mil for a decent player yet money is going to be found for redevelopment, I dont think so
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

08/08/2008 15:36:40
Royalty,

is your last name Dawson .. as in Ally ?
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paulmac,

surrey 08/08/2008 15:36:58
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So Brian.....What is your starting 11 for tomorrow?

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BEMUSED EXILE,

08/08/2008 15:38:35
I am intrigued by this "Shangri-La" SPL without Celtic or Rangers.

It's a strange concept. RFC and CFC are just two football teams, the same as all the rest. It just so happens that down through the decades, they have become much more successful and therefore much bigger than the others.

The notion that you can take the biggest teams out of a national league and make it better as a consequence is bizarre. Would the Premiership be a bigger draw if Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool left? Maybe we could take Real Madrid and Barcelona away from La Liga to give the others a chance. I'm sure that the Portuguese league would soon catch fire without Sporting, Oporto and Benfica, as would the Dutch top division minus Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord.

The race for the SPL title would certainly be more wide open without the OF, but there would be nothing to differentiate it in standard from the top divisions of Norway, Austria, etc. There would certainly be a lot less money from TV and from sponsors, both for the league in general and for individual clubs.

The poster got one thing right, though. It IS a no-brainer.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 08/08/2008 15:39:10
#97

Whats your point caller?