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Macedonia 1 - 0 Scotland: Scotland get caught cold in Skopje heat



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Published Date: 07 September 2008
IN A grim match, in a grim stadium, in a grim city, the grimmest sight of all was the scene at the end when the Scots dragged themselves off the park, clearly jaded, clearly distraught, slowly coming to terms with a World Cup qualifying campaign already in tatters at this painfully early stage.
George Burley's team never recovered from an abject opening half, a period that saw them concede inside five minutes and then play with no semblance of order thereafter. At the break it was only a wonder that they were not already out of it. Macedonia were not electrifying but they made enough of the chances that came their way. In the end, just one was enough.

The irony was that Scotland finished the game strongly, infinitely stronger than the Macedonians, who dropped deeper and deeper and ran the risk of a late sucker punch. In the heat, Scotland's relentless pressing, especially in the last 10 minutes, was impressive but so much damage had been done already by that point. Perhaps fatal damage as far as qualifying goes.

It was a sorry spectacle, really, in a sad excuse for a stadium on a day of boiling temperatures. Agreeing to play Macedonia away on the opening day of qualifying will continue to be the subject of heated debate. Even when it was announced, the policy of beginning with two away matches looked foolhardy; now it looks plain suicidal.

Dear me, it was a tough afternoon, with the most woeful beginning for Scotland, a throwback to the sleepy, lacklustre days the nation had hoped they'd left behind. In the fifth minute, a free-kick, awarded a little unjustly against Stephen McManus, but still a distance from Craig Gordon's net. If the Scots were alive they'd have dealt with the situation, they'd have formed their wall with some degree of ballast, they'd have reacted to the loose ball with more awareness, they'd have avoided an eminently avoidable goal.

As it was, the free-kick was tapped to Goce Sedloski, the veteran defender with 87 caps to his name, and he had a crack. It wasn't what you would call a howitzer, far from it. But it worked its way past Gordon's wall all the same and had the goalkeeper at full stretch. He got a finger-tip to it and pushed it on to his right-hand post. Now it was up to his teammates to finish the job. They failed dismally. The ball bounced off the woodwork and there was Ilco Naumoski to slide it home.

The unimaginable nightmare had therefore come true. Scotland now had to chase the game in the searing heat, a scenario so depressing at the outset that it was barely worth thinking about. And worse again was the fact that Scotland didn't look in any condition to chase anything, bar the free-running Macedonians that constantly threatened to score a second and truly deliver the knockout blow. The Scots had problems all over the place but, principally, out wide where the combinations of Graham Alexander and Scott Brown on the right and Gary Naysmith and Barry Robson on the left were always vulnerable to attack.

Macedonia found gaps there, lots of them. Had they a bit more quality they'd have exploited them and this thing would have been over by the break. Shell-shocked and disorganised, Scotland afforded their hosts all the time and space and chances to get the job finished nice and early. In reply, the visitors offered nothing but speculative pots from distance and an increasingly haggard demeanour.

There were exceptions to the Scottish malaise. Gary Caldwell was switched-on and needed to be. In the 24th minute, Goran Pandev, the Lazio striker at whose altar the locals worship, took Robert Petrov's cross from the left first time and smashed in a convincing-looking volley, only stopped in its tracks after Caldwell put his body in the way of it. That wouldn't be the last timely intervention the Celtic defender was to make.

Still we waited for something from Scotland. At last, on the half hour, James McFadden, an isolated figure up until then, finally got the ball at his feet. He was inside the Macedonian penalty area, skipping right to left, trying to rid himself of the giants in red tracking his every move. He had a cut but one of the big beasts, the excellent Igor Mitreski, charged it down. That was Scotland's chance. One fleeting moment of hope and then it was back to the established rhythm. Lots of Macedonian pressure and some frightening moments for Burley's team.

A few minutes after McFadden's near-miss, the home support screamed for a penalty, Goran Maznov going down under a challenge from Gordon. Scotland survived that one and the one after, a charging run on goal from Maznov, snuffed out quite brilliantly by Caldwell just as the striker was to about lash in his shot. Even then, the moment did not pass until Pandev made a frightful hash of burying the breaking ball.

Doubtless Burley's been in some tight spots at the halfway point in games in the past. Here was another, maybe the biggest of all. Lose this and was there any way back in the group, any hope? He had some fast talking to do and for a little while it looked like it had some kind of impact. Scotland came out a little brighter than before, a Robson corner caused Macedonia problems, a Brown shot forced a save out of Petar Milosevski, a sweet Naysmith cross created a chance for Darren Fletcher, but he blew it.

But all the while there was the threat of a second for Macedonia, a killer punch, a reminder coming in the shape of a drive just short of the hour-mark from Velice Sumulikoski that Gordon did superbly to push out for a corner and a second, a massive scare, not long after when Naumoski swivelled close to the six-yard box and thumped a shot straight at the Scotland goalkeeper. A few feet either side of Gordon and it was a goal. As it was, Gordon beat it out.

As the half wore on, Burley threw on Kris Commons and Shaun Maloney and Kris Boyd. Commons had some bright spots, Maloney forced a flying save out of Milosevski, McFadden went down in the box and screamed for a penalty and got booked for his protest. It was seat-of-the-pants stuff now. Brave but ultimately futile. Scotland were beaten and the harsh truth is that they deserved to be. Long road back now for them. Long road indeed.

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Naumoski goal (4 mins)

Goran Maznov wins a dubious free-kick 25 yards out after the referee adjudges Stephen McManus to have fouled him. Craig Gordon saves brilliantly, touching Goce Sedloski's free-kick onto the post, but cannot prevent Ilco Naumoski netting the rebound.


Scotland chance (54 mins)

Darren Fletcher (above) almost brings Scotland level, but he just fails to get on the end of a cross from Gary Naysmith. Kenny Miller is unable to convert the loose ball from a tight angle.

Penalty claim denied (71 mins)

Kenny Miller goes down in the box and appeals to the referee. The ball breaks to James McFadden and he is brought down by the keeper but again the claim is waved away. McFadden is booked for protesting.



OVENING SALVOS

How Scotland fared in the first matches of previous World Cup qualifying campaigns. During the 1978 qualifiers they lost the opener to Czechoslovakia and still made it to Argentina

2006 WORLD CUP

Scotland 0, Slovenia 0. Didn't qualify

2002 WORLD CUP

Latvia 0, Scotland 1. Didn't qualify


1998 WORLD CUP

Austria 0, Scotland 0. Qualified

1994 WORLD CUP

Switzerland 3, Scotland 1. Didn't qualify

1990 WORLD CUP

Norway 1, Scotland 2. Qualified

1986 WORLD CUP

Scotland 3, Iceland 0. Qualified

1982 WORLD CUP

Sweden 0, Scotland 1. Qualified

1978 WORLD CUP

Czechoslovakia 2, Scotland 0. Qualified

1974 WORLD CUP

Denmark 1, Scotland 4. Qualified






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VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

New Cumnock 07/09/2008 00:15:39
Poor performance right enough.
Good report of the game from Tom English.
I'm not sure if Weir or Ferguson would have made much difference.
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VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

New Cumnock 07/09/2008 00:33:51
# 5 I agree that Weir is good but he's getting to the end of his career now so he might not make South Africa. Ferguson is just a poser and Thomson has only just come into the Scotland set up so I doubt if these three players would have won us the game or given us hope for the next games.
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KingKenny,

07/09/2008 00:40:38
Some Scotland Players no deserve Internatinal place. Scotland need change someone and develop. Many players out This game. but if want play World cup..This game need win.

Macedonia will play Netherlands. If they not beat away team..and Scotland again recieve lost Iceland game.. will difficult Qualifying

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Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 07/09/2008 00:46:59
Is this a "retards are us" forum today. Pundit, you make king kenny look sane.
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Helter Skelter,

07/09/2008 01:06:41
Well that's that then....we were in the world cup for all of 90 minutes this time 'roon.

There is room for improvement....we could've goat oursels 4 behind before half time an' been oot in 45.

Ah mean , thet's rediculous...ah blame the parents so an' ah dae.
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VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

New Cumnock 07/09/2008 01:22:59
# 7 the pundit
Weir is only picked because he plays for the old firm. Not because he's International class. Barry Robson was ignored while scoring regularly at Dundee United. He moved to Celtic and was suddenly ' International Class ' and picked for the national team. He's actually a worse player now as he can't command a regular first team place yet he is picked for the National team because he plays for Celtic. Barking mad Scottish football.
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Boswall,

07/09/2008 01:42:12
Stuff football - clearly we'll never qualify/win the FIFA WC.

The future of Scottish sport is Tennis, Cycling and Elephant Polo.
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VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

07/09/2008 01:42:38
# 23 the pundit
Weir would still have got picked for Scotland while at Everton because of his good relationship with Walter Smith.
A lot of players at the old firm are definitely not good enough for Scotland. They might have been initially but sitting on the bench for years ( Riordan for example - 13 games in 2yrs) must have killed their spirit and enthusiam for the game.
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Canadian Jambo,

07/09/2008 02:19:18
What an excellent article by Mr English-and what a load of drivel from posters complete with (in some cases,) appalling English spelling and grammar.
This is a frightenly poor performance by Scotland. A loss to Iceland and we are out of it. Let's have some constructive and thoughtful criticism so that the team can do better the next time.
They have to!
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JamboG,

Florida 07/09/2008 02:22:16
A pathetic performance. Players and managers should be ashamed of themselves. Saint George's 10 wins in a row for Hearts seems a very long time ago...his record for Scotland so far is comparable with the great Berti...they seem to have no motivation...except maybe Fletcher and Gordon..and they actually play for proper clubs in a proper league!

Yeah, yeah...there are no easy games in international football...what tosh.
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Surefire,

07/09/2008 02:23:17
thepundit....you should be re-named thrush (work it out)you bring nothing but nonsense to these comments pages..scotland should be ashamed of their performance yesterday..i have no idea why miller gets a game and why he lasted on the field so long..a player who can run all day does not merit a place at international level imo..brown looked better when he moved into a central role and commins and mahoney looked dangerous on the flanks...but by then they were chasing the game...saving grace would have been penalty which should/could have been given but not sure if we deserved anything in the end....and thrush..no im not a celtic fan.
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mybestmatesa,

upsh*tcreek 07/09/2008 02:25:44
What is the point in me staying in JHB now? What a miserable shower of sh*t we have become. I thought you could beat Macedonia (where exactly is that now?) by setting fire to a wooden horse or something.














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FTH22inarow,

07/09/2008 02:48:07
I don't support Scotland because the SFA are the GFA but how can you critisize players for doing their best in 104 degrees of heat, Gordon Smith and his cronies are to blame for this debacle
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FTH22inarow,

07/09/2008 02:58:01
34 not to inbreds like your goodself, jeeze i need to get a life what am i doing on here at this time!
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 02:58:07
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If management felt the heat was going to be major concern then we should have started the match with a tight 4-5-1 formation away from home.

We should have started the 2 wide men in midfield who finished the match along with 3 central midfield players.

First half we were very poor, and the midfield except for Robson were anonymous.

The second half a wee bit better but caused no danger to the Macedonians in the final third.

Burley has persisted with his choice of strikers for to long and new blood is needed.

We keep hearing the Fletchers and McCormacks dont have the experience to play at this level.

Well how does one get the experience if you are never given a shot.

I still think we have a chance to finish 2nd in this group but the manager and his help have got to throw the dice and change things up front.
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Surefire,

07/09/2008 02:58:19
#32...that post just proves my point...thank you thrush
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 03:23:32
Note to George Burley.

18 year old scores for Wales giving them the 3 points.

See George some times it pays to take a chance on inexperienced young players.

Iceland drew with Norway 1-1, good result with us dropping 3 points.
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 03:29:47
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it was 2-2 my mistake
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WellFan,

US 07/09/2008 03:31:06
Any international team playing Kenny Miller as their attacking threat is going to struggle. 2 goals in 2 years? The opposition must think we're having a laugh.
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 03:33:28
40 thepundit

Holland will walk this group.

Our goal has to be play for 2nd spot and advance to the playoff.
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Stoobing,

London 07/09/2008 03:41:45
thepundit? What? Responding to that drivel is like responding to Rain Man's first indiscretions on a keyboard. Accept 'his' comments as such and ignore.

Georgia 2 Scotland 1. So there we were and there we are. Thanks George for realising that Miller + Faddy against large eastern European bruisers does not = victory. Disgraceful team selection, pointless effort. Ah well, onto 2012. Joke.

Hartley, punctured. Absolutely hopeless. Brown on right midfield? Wonderful. Many thanks George.
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 03:43:35
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Aussies beat Holland 2-1
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Surefire,

07/09/2008 03:44:47
so tell me pundit...how does myself attending premiership football most weeks compare to "watch diddy teams week in week out while old firm fans watch quality football (mainly in blue)"compare. yeh, pure quality. have you ever been to Ibrox.
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Daillyman,

07/09/2008 03:48:03
45 Pundit

The last time we met Holland we got them p!ssed off in Glasgow and then they took 6 off us over there.
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Surefire,

07/09/2008 03:55:48
i think we can write 6 points off against holland
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gordo999,

Vanvouver, Canada 07/09/2008 03:56:26
Attention all you who wanted Bertie Vogts run out of town. We've had three Scottish managers since Vogts and we get progressively worse. The latest patterns himself after Bobbie Robson, a dour, archaic, predictable, boring manager if there ever was one. He continues to play Kenny Miller, a pure runner in the style of Durie and Dickov, who Vogts correctly told he can't miss sitters at the international level.

That was obvious four years ago, yet here we are with the same old nonsense. To those of you who could not understand what Vogts was doing, you haven't got a clue about football.
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Scythia,

07/09/2008 05:04:52
Getting a sense of "been here before". If we are going qualify they need to be winning ties such as this.
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Fanling,

Hong Kong 07/09/2008 05:12:30
the pundit #1, #7, #38

Apart from your predictably distasteful Rangers bias, what kind of school taught you to say "would of"? "Would have" is the correct form as every educated Scots schoolchild knows. "Would of" is a characteristic piece of ignorance of the English language commonly found south of the border.

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Surefire,

07/09/2008 05:40:48
will everyone please ignore pundit....as mentioned earlier IT offers NOTHING.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 06:55:09
Celtic are to blame for yesterdays embarrassing defeat.

I have never seen a team containing so many misfits.

McManus - leg breaker

Caldwell - Mary Shellys Frankenstein

Brown - Headless Chicken

Hartley - Gypsy

Robson - Vera Duckworth

Maloney - Not good enough for Villa

Any team with these players is doomed to failure.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 06:58:16
its amazing really. One game played and we are out of the world cup already.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:13:00
#69 not that I can remember.

Our section has fewer games than the other sections so losing 1 game is catastrophic.

Still at least we have the best supporters in the world. When the chips are down they can always sing Doe-a-Deer.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:17:37
We should draft in Mark Wilson for Wednesday night.

He is, after all the only remaining Scottish Celtic player that is not getting a game in the national team.
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Down with everything,

07/09/2008 07:23:30

I fail to see where the sudden mood of doom and gloom has come from.

Its as if many pundits and fans were waiting for a defeat to immediately jump on Burley.

He had set his players a target of 4 points from these games and i would imagine thought that macedonia would be the single point.

So as it stands today we are one point behind target.

All you doom and gloomers get a fecking life and get behind your team.

Regardless of where they play their league football.

Any arguments about quality and respective teams should look at Darren Fletcher, plays for Europe's best team and has never impressed me in the dark blue.

I do agree with posts which make reference to Scotland selection, for example Rangers target Berra would be first on the Scotland team sheet had Rangers actually signed him during the close season, but then all fans know the situation with regard to selection.


But at the end of the day, i will still get vastly over optimistic when following my country and will cheer every player who pulls on the jersey, even if 11 of them were hibbies!!.

Mon Scotland, get it up the Icelanders!!!!!


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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:25:14
#72 only the best second placed teams go into a play off.

So I think we can forget that.
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LEAL,

07/09/2008 07:27:07
72 bring them on
I think the best 8 runners up out of 9 groups get a go.Its still all to play for here.We must go forward against Iceland and give them a threshing.Have confidence in our world class goalie to deal with anything that comes his way,and go forward to create a dozen good chances that will bring us some/many goals.Iceland are a very weak team which most first division sides would hammer home and away.If Burley says it is going to be tough,it would be like Gordon Ramsay saying its tough to boil an egg.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:29:46
#74 when we get humped on wednesday should i still be optimistic?

I watched Norway v Iceland last night. Iceland were the better team and indeed they hit the post in the last minute so could easily have won it.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:33:21
#76 "Iceland are a very weak team".

What do you base that on?

I watched them last night and they were superb,

You are in for a shock on Wednesday night.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 07:35:32
#79 normally they discount the results against the diddy teams in the bigger sections.
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Down with everything,

07/09/2008 07:42:22
#77 BTO

How can he be 4 points behind target now???? the team have only played one game you muppet

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Down with everything,

07/09/2008 07:48:33

No you fudddd

if we lose to Iceland then yes, but we haven't even played them, so to say that we are at this stage 4 points behind target is misleading and proves that doom and gloom seems to be the order of the day.

By your logic we are in the same position as prior to yesterday's game.

but as we could only have a maximum of three points at this stage, your logic is flawed (a bit like your personality)
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Mike Masterton,

07/09/2008 08:13:53
58 is right,get rid of Burley.
Even before the team was announced, so many called off
same old story.We couldn't win an argument !
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Down with everything,

07/09/2008 08:21:35

How has FIFA got anything to do with your flawed logic.

We have no points out of a possible three, so the most we can be is three points behind target.

Why must everything be spelled out for you hard of thinking (we errra) people????

This has nothing to do with either FIFA or Hearts, or for that matter Rangers, so why are you here???

You lot are very vocal in your non-support of our country and desire to be cheering on England under a Britain shirt.

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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 07/09/2008 08:30:58
Hope everyone got at least 2 to 1 yesterday or if you shopped around like I did, a lovely 9 to 4 was to be had on Macedonia.
As I said yesterday morning, a cast iron certainty.
Burley couldn't pick his nose and as someone pointed out, with all those celtic losers in the team, Scotland didn't stand a chance.
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John H,

edinburgh 07/09/2008 08:44:16
What a disgraceful performance it was. No excuses can cover it up.
Shocking selection fullbacks as useless as broken wing mirrors, central defenders who couldn't stop a bus and as for the rest words can't describe how bad.
Burley get a grip or ship out you fake.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 08:51:26
3 money making opportunities for you all.

1)Scotland to get humped by Iceland. With so many Celtic diddys in the team its a foregone conclusion.

2)rangers to win the league. The celtic diddy men are so poor that even if Ken Dodd was their manager, they would be lucky to get second place.

3)celtic to come bottom of their champions league group and thus heaping more embarrassment on Ireland.

In fact I think I will put the treble on. Next year this time I will be posting from the Bahamas.
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Ursus arctos horribilis,

07/09/2008 08:52:03
Prediction

Fed-up with the international football-yawn- and especially the national embarrassment that is the Scotland national team (and personally I find the Tartan Army cringe-worthy).

Our footballers are poor-the big two have some small success sometimes but rely on foreign imports -however this can be used to put an end to these stupid calls for independence once and for all.

We WILL be part of team GB at the next Olympics.
Thereafter no more Scotland team -sob sob-but the upside for the majority of football fans is that Rangers and Celtic will be allowed into the Premiership.

If you ask people in Scotland would you rather have the OF in the EPL or Independence-a big majority for the former.


Panem et circenses-as the Roman used to say- maybe the PM has already cottoned on to this!
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Ursus arctos horribilis,

07/09/2008 08:55:21
#2 very apt that you should follow that shower-how are the peg-sales coming along or are you diversified into The Big Issue ?

Whereabouts in Macedonia is Coatbrig byraway?
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 09:01:01
I am not sure if this is true but I was told last night down the pub that "Fortress Parkhead" is erstwhile to be known as "Knotty Ash".

The rebel song is being replaced by "We are the Diddy Men".

Celtic tickling sticks will be available from all Celtic shops from Monday.
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

uk 07/09/2008 09:09:52
I didn't think he could do it but strachan has.
I knew he'd produce a few shockers in the transfer market as usual but he has really surpassed himself this time.
First up it's the superstar Paddy for ten-bob. Nice one for starters Gordy.
Next up, the super Greek, Samarse, no shock there.
Then the trump card, nick Loovens from Rangers (aye right) and then don't play him!!
Caldweel and McAnus keep their places!!
And that's that.
No wonder celtic fans hate the guy.
He's a tube.
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scottish person,

paisley 07/09/2008 09:14:33
OK, Scotland were soundly beaten but the only true Macedonian hero I seen on the park was the blundering buffoon of a ref. He caused the upset, more than the Macedonian team. Call it sour grapes if you like but, until this game enters the 21st century we are going to get stuffed by very ordinary teams for ever.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 09:41:12
All is not lost for wednesday. I hear that Burley has been on the phone to Kerry Katona to get the inside track on Iceland.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 09:43:52
Speaking of which, who has the biggest Diddys?

The Scotland central defence or Kerry Katona?
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 09:54:27
#108 Never. 6 Celtic players is a recipe for disaster. Especially for fixtures away from home.

Look at Celtics embarrassing record away from home in the champions league. Must be the worst of any team that has entered the competition.

Its a real embarrassment for the Irish.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 10:17:57
#110 why dont you plss off you idiot.
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Jambo-ree,

07/09/2008 10:19:39
#104 C'mon give Burley a break. He's clearly missing Vlad's sound advice on who to select and when to make substitutions ;o)

Anyway, it's early days to be running up the white flag. Draw between Norway and Iceland was helpful and if we get a result in Iceland then we'll be right back in the mix.
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LionheartFodithman,

07/09/2008 10:21:58
#110 Smeltic f&nny
Comical post.
Of the 4 or 5 punters who have commented on this story,the main contributor(bto)lives in Japan and pundiddy is English.
You are the only Scot on here.
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LionheartFodithman,

07/09/2008 10:23:31
#112 JR
I thought we played much better in the second half,perhaps GB received the fax at half time ??
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Friend in the North,

Stonehaven 07/09/2008 10:25:14
A sad performance by our national team. But why do we criticise players basically for playing for a club other than the one we support, I can't see the point. Yes we should have done better against Macedonia. As was said on the Radio yesterday, they all play for big clubs and big money and should have been capable and have had the desire to lift their game in the first half without waiting for an earbasshing at half time.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 10:26:30
#112 I admire your confidence. i hope its true but I cant see it somehow. Iceland nearly won 3 2 last night. They hit the post in the last minute.

Our central defence of statues will have to play a lot better than they did yesterday thats for sure.
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LionheartFodithman,

07/09/2008 10:27:13
#117
They have been evicted from the Scotland wee diddy hoose.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 07/09/2008 10:28:05
All the signs were there - the team flying out late, Burley becoming more incoherent by the minute, Celtic and Rangers players included in the squad irrespective of ability, Terry Butcher in the dugout ... it looks like another defeat on Wednesday.
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 07/09/2008 10:29:46
Anybody who watches Braveheart and believes it must be a dafty.
And why when someone is pretending to be foreign they type in a foreign accent??
It doesn't work like that #113!
The draw between Norway and Iceland is bad news if you ask me.
I can see Norway beating Scotland and if Iceland can get a draw away to them I'd have to encourage everyone to get a few quid on them on Wednesday.
If King Keeny Miller can score against Caldwell and McAnus what do you think Gudjhonsen will do to them??
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LionheartFodithman,

07/09/2008 10:30:18
#120 Is that why GB has brought in Butcher and Pressley.2 big centre halfs to hold him up ???
Allegedly,of course.
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Al Pacino,

07/09/2008 10:30:45
Absolutely pathetic. Do these people not want to go to the World Cup? We will lose in Iceland and our misery will be complete. At least Murray's playing well in New York.
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Calum Crubag,

Dùn Eideann 07/09/2008 10:30:48
Burley aint doing it. Sure, we had a Macedonian ref yesterday and the Macedonia players spent half the game lying down - what would their Olypmic sqaud do??! - but first half tactics were all wrong once we'd gone behind.

Miller was cac, again. Maloney should have replaced him at half time. Fletcher should have been hooked and Boyd on earlier.

Yeah, Burley's Hearts' run is fading fast.
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07/09/2008 10:31:53
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07/09/2008 10:38:57
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Friend in the North,

07/09/2008 10:41:03
#127 ..and motivation, confidence,belief in themselves and Saturday afternoon in a pub seeing what it means to us.

A bit of devilment would not go amiss either!
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Westcoaster,

perth 07/09/2008 10:41:56
I blame the english for taking our oil,...and our freedom! Lads why can't we just face it we're not very good at football! instead of going on this 1 way trip to no-where every 2 years when we try and qualify for something.
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big bucks,

Isle of Mull 07/09/2008 10:51:42
Poor performance by Scotland but not the end of the world.
I think maybe Stewart should have got a game a head of hartley or Brown as he seems to be playing well for Hearts.
You would have thought that Scotland got beat 5-0 with the reaction from the rearranging rioters on this thread.
It was all the big bad Celtic players fault,they just can't help themselves can they.
It was not Scotlands defence that let the side down it was there inability to create and score goals.
One rearranger even suggests that we lost because celtic players can't play away from home.Which Rangers players would replace them the same ones who lost to a lithuanian pub team.
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arthurscross,

07/09/2008 10:52:08
With Weir and Ferguson having so many caps how come we haven't been able to qualify for the finals of any competition?
Is you qualification for success the fact that someone is an ex-rangers man? Like the following Lord Smudger:-
When will the SFA and/or Clubs stop defending so called fans who ignore the instructions given well in advance of games abroad and at away games that they are legally not allowed in the home sections of the ground.
Gordon Smith has again blundered, again, with the following extract from your article today;"SFA chief executive Gordon Smith pleaded in vain for fans to be let in. He said: "[b]I assured the police and the Macedonian FA that our fans would be well behaved [/b]but they told me it was not our fans they were worried about.

"It was the reaction of their own fans that was causing concern and they decided it was best not to let the Scotland fans in for safety reasons."

How can he in his position guarantee good behaviour with the fans history?
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Survivor Of Riots,

07/09/2008 10:52:31
No Surprise - the usual Raging Ranger Syndrome Sufferers have crawled out from their maggot infested hovels to have a go at the Celtic players who played yesterday.

Macedonian Celtic Fan - do engage with these people. They have a serious illness.

Stay were you are and do not come to Scotland. You will be at risk from these diseased people.
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LEAL,

07/09/2008 10:53:13
I think we should be realistic and say that only really good teams go to the finals,and at the moment we arent a really good team.Therefore,this is our world cup finals and we should be going out to play every match to win.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 10:54:50
Gordon Smith had the cheek to put the Kybosh on a team GB at the 2012 Olympics as well. Does that idiot not realise that it is the only chance for some Scottish players to appear in the final stages of a major tournament?
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 10:57:42
#134 Arthurscross, excellent post.
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Union Jack Jambo,

07/09/2008 10:58:52
Why no report on the Lithuania match.

Miko scored a screamer and a few Jambos were on show.
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rorie,

alloa 07/09/2008 11:06:21
i see wee craigie bron's wriggled his way back into the scotland squad, maybe he will bring back richard gough.
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arthurscross,

07/09/2008 11:07:28
Same old rubbish from the bluenoses - bring them on, thepundit etc - How much do they blame the ex Rangers men who were assisting Burley i.e. Craig Brown, Tommy McLean, Terry Butcher all failures in management but survive because of their association with the SFA establishment team.
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Weel Kent Jambo,

07/09/2008 11:10:07
So much negativity and most of it from RFC 'fans'. Delude themselves into thinking wee arra peepul and then transfer this to national team.

I tell you most sincerely folks that supporting Scotland is much much more like supporting Hearts than the OF. We can cope with bad moments the OF (especially the Bears) just can't. (Although you'd have thought after Kaunus they might had at least have started to learn to but inbred arrogance is hard to kill).

Never mind, when St Deek of Lochend is back in the team there'll be no holding us, eh Hobs?

c'mon Scotland...
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 11:13:59
Broadfoot and Berra should be picked ahead of the chuckle brothers for starters.

Novo and Commons should both play ahead of Hartley and Robson.

And Brown should be replaced by Stewart.

That would solve our main problems.
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arthurscross,

07/09/2008 11:15:45
#138 Thank you. I am already on record on this forum last week of stating that George Burley will be a failure probably worse than Berti, who never really had a chance with the usual Scottish Media reprobates.
Burley in yesterdays exclusive newspaper article was as pitiful as Lord Smudger's BBC program on Friday night. We are certainly stuck with that man since there is no Fergus McCann to take him to task on all the boobs he has made to date.
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arthurscross,

07/09/2008 11:18:18
#144 As usual the same type of one liners without substance or evidence?
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Weel Kent Jambo,

07/09/2008 11:18:47
#146 He could always ask that nice Mr Romanov for advice - help is just a fax transmission away....
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Shug,

07/09/2008 11:23:23
Not a Rangers or Celtic fan but no doubt that we need Ferguson back in the middle of the park. We have no one else (perhaps Stewart but I have never seen him play or his history/performances have been pretty erratic by all accounts) who can put their foot on the ball and spray around a few incisive passes.

That said, Macedonia are mince and we should have been able to beat them. On current form Iceland should win.
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big bucks,

Isle of MULL 07/09/2008 11:23:57
#145 chuckle brothers i thought that was your mates pundit and bring them on.
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Weel Kent Jambo,

07/09/2008 11:25:28
#149 If by incisive passes you mean square or backwards then Basketball Barry is indeed our man. Macedonia have had some reasonable results recently BTW.
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Scotland Uber Unionists,

07/09/2008 11:30:50
That's what happens when you fill the team with players from Ambulance chasers FC.
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anakin,

anywhere west of the hootsmon 07/09/2008 11:34:46
At this juncture Scot Brown is a great disappointment. Thomson has proven to be the better buy from Hibs. He is the master of the "nothing" ball, lacks vision and does not seem to contribute to any positive movement from such a crucial position in the national as well as his local team.

All the gash about his sister, which was a tradgedy, is not acceptable. He just does not cut the mustard at the highest level. Unless there is something I am missing I think he could well turn out to be a really big continual disappoint to his manager(s)
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big bucks,

Isle of Mull 07/09/2008 11:36:48
#153 in Manchester rearranging rioters not only chased ambulances but fire engines,police cars,police men and anyone else who got in there way,Scotlands shame.
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Rufus T. Firefly,

07/09/2008 11:39:34
If Aids McTraitor never chose Ireland ahead of Scotland then we would have had 7 Celtc players in the Scotland team. A recipe for disaster.

We need to draft in Nacho Novo to the squad before its too late.
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big bucks,

Isle of Mull 07/09/2008 11:45:46
156 Walter smith has aids since when? inever new he played for Ireland.
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Jofrad,

07/09/2008 11:45:48
What we need is a Great Britain football team !
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Al-Mac,

07/09/2008 11:57:13
Quick browse through these comments reminds me, why outside of their own supporters, Rangers are the most hated team in Scotland. And if anyone should have any doubts about this, cast your mind back to the national celebration in May when they were humped at Pittodrie and Celtic won the league in Dundee where the good citizens there joined with Celtic in this national celebration.
Nobody wants you, nobody likes you.
Eventually you will disappear.